My front wheel really wants me to back flip that jump.
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but now lower a-line is really almost too big compared to the upper part.
Solution…
Make upper aline bigger ;)
that new jump is scary to me too, i don't clear it. but anyone with solid air skills should get it fine, its really well built. natural progression, the jumps will get bigger slowly over time, though i have to say that the carnage we're seeing this summer from the bike park is unprecedented. there will be a ceiling somewhere, in order to save "intermediate" park riders like us from killing ourselves.
This is TheDon hitting the drop last weekend. I have helmet can footage of myself I'll try and post later. This one is good for perspective though.
though i have to say that the carnage we're seeing this summer from the bike park is unprecedented. there will be a ceiling somewhere, in order to save "intermediate" park riders like us from killing ourselves.
that's just really sad to hear when it comes down to it. as much as we need to respect our personal skill and not over push overselves, this sport shouldn't hurt people so much.
that new jump is scary to me too, i don't clear it. but anyone with solid air skills should get it fine, its really well built. natural progression, the jumps will get bigger slowly over time, though i have to say that the carnage we're seeing this summer from the bike park is unprecedented. there will be a ceiling somewhere, in order to save "intermediate" park riders like us from killing ourselves.
I think that jump provides a good progression to other things like Dwayne and crabapple because it requires hitting a big wall of dirt at full speed. Without something like this that has a whole bunch of warm up jumps before it, I'd be concerned that people would be less prepared for first attempts on the bigger jumps. I feel it's a pretty safe jump as coming short has little consequence. My guess is jumps that have dodgy lips like the final one on Aline are far more likely to cause injury than something that has a very predictable lip that you're more likely to come short on.
All that said, as much as I love that jump I do feel for the people who want something a bit more chill but are way beyond CUI.
Edit: that was meant to read like I was agreeing with you by the way. Sucks to hear people are getting snapped. Seen a few on that last jump on Aline. I resist hitting it full pin and occasionally get a little bucked. It's only very slightly broken, but it is broken.
I was talking to one of the safety crew during the kid's b line race last week. He had just got a call that a 38 year old male had crashed and dislocated his shoulder and was dizzy with a head injury. He said that there are about 15 emergency calls a day average at the park. Double that for Crankworx. Even though there are fewer people actually riding during the festival, there are far more injuries because of the stoke factor and all of the trail closures.
I thought that was interesting, especially when you consider that they're taking out trees and the sidewalk so the medical center can expand the heliport. Apparently, business is good.
All that said, as much as I love that jump I do feel for the people who want something a bit more chill but are way beyond CUI.
This is where I stand this season. I'm getting to the point where when I crash, I don't heal like I used to. So the thought of eating shit while getting back to where I used to ride just isn't worth it anymore. That said, it's cool riding with my son these days, and passing on my passion for biking to him.
I guess that's why they had a whole section of the free parking lot designated "Medical Center Parking Only" during Crankworx.
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All the medical parking was taken over by a couple of large mobile medical rigs.
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Sorry, you are right. It was Saturday (Crankworx = Groundhog Day for MTB), but bottom line is I see a lot of carnage on BV. Maybe I'm just bad luck.
If the kid was wearing yellow race it, he is a junior world cup rider from Norway… he just got one jump wrong when trying to scrub… he is now in Hospital in North Van with a ruptured spleen and Kidney. Whistler = high speeds, hard ground and long days… these all increase chance of getting hurt.
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My front wheel really wants me to back flip that jump.
I take this to mean you're landing rear wheel heavy (front wheel high). This is almost certainly because you're preloading too much. A take-off with such a big radius requires that you just stand. Any pre-loading will cause the back wheel to drop. Next time you hit the big jump on lower a-line, just stand at it. I know this might sound weird.
I think that jump provides a good progression to other things like Dwayne and crabapple because it requires hitting a big wall of dirt at full speed. Without something like this that has a whole bunch of warm up jumps before it, I'd be concerned that people would be less prepared for first attempts on the bigger jumps. I feel it's a pretty safe jump as coming short has little consequence. My guess is jumps that have dodgy lips like the final one on Aline are far more likely to cause injury than something that has a very predictable lip that you're more likely to come short on.
I don't really agree. The jump in question is unique. It's different to the crabapple hits. Despite being 10-12 feet smaller, the lip is actually 6+feet taller. The take-off radius is gigantic. As stated above, the right way to hit it is to just stand. If you rode any other jump in the park like you ride the big lower a-line jump, you'd dead sailor.
that new jump is scary to me too, i don't clear it. but anyone with solid air skills should get it fine, its really well built. natural progression, the jumps will get bigger slowly over time, though i have to say that the carnage we're seeing this summer from the bike park is unprecedented. there will be a ceiling somewhere, in order to save "intermediate" park riders like us from killing ourselves.
That the jump lips get taller only makes sense. The bigger the radius the better for mountain bikes. Short lips scare the hell out of me. It's a perception thing. Short lips aren't intimidating because you can see over them, but it's an illusion. If your hands and feet aren't on their A game, you get bucked because your big silly bike doesn't fit in the damn take off. A big tall take-off is intimidating because it's a wall of dirt, but in reality your bike fits in it several times over, and so it will be much more predictable.
I take this to mean you're landing rear wheel heavy (front wheel high). This is almost certainly because you're preloading too much. A take-off with such a big radius requires that you just stand. Any pre-loading will cause the back wheel to drop. Next time you hit the big jump on lower a-line, just stand at it. I know this might sound weird.
That's exactly it. Thanks for the tip, I'll give it a go!
Interesting discussion but that theory doesn't seem to work for me. I preload on that jump (although timing is more important because the face is so tall) and it seems to be just fine. If I get lazy and don't push into a jump, then there's a chance of getting bucked.
Interesting discussion but that theory doesn't seem to work for me. I preload on that jump (although timing is more important because the face is so tall) and it seems to be just fine. If I get lazy and don't push into a jump, then there's a chance of getting bucked.
To further the discussion, preloading a bike's suspension works _mostly _based upon the idea that, if left to it's own devices, your suspension will experience a sufficient load upon riding over a jump that once passed the lip, it will unload violently, or buck.
If we can all agree about that notion, then a sufficiently large radius take-off won't push you way into your travel, and so won't buck. A bit of preload is no doubt fine on the lower a-line big'un, but preload too much and the rear tire will be virtually unloaded at the top of the lip. In this situation, it's the opposite of the buck, where no weight on the tire means it just sags off the lip, or drags the rider rear heavy through the air.
YMMV and all that.
I hit that jump the same way I think long jump skiers hit their jumps. I kind of preload right up to the lift then boost off with my torso extended or 'standing' as stated earlier.
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