Does anyone know what the story is with that radical new jump to nowhere in the fastest part of Angry Midget? I see that there's a bit of mud there, but it's on the outside of the fastest corner on the trail with no landing and made of squirrel fodder. Everyone I've talked to is just WTF about this and wonder if it was intended to be firewood for an upcoming trail day to fix the holes and drainage there without ruining the fastest and sweetest part of the trail. There's enough jumps with no landings on the neighbouring trails, do we really need another one?
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Does anyone know what the story is with that radical new jump to nowhere in the fastest part of Angry Midget? I see that there's a bit of mud there, but it's on the outside of the fastest corner on the trail with no landing and made of squirrel fodder. Everyone I've talked to is just WTF about this and wonder if it was intended to be firewood for an upcoming trail day to fix the holes and drainage there without ruining the fastest and sweetest part of the trail. There's enough jumps with no landings on the neighbouring trails, do we really need another one?
Put me in the WTF camp as well! Certainly it would be nice to see some work done to improve drainage there but the bridge just seems weird….
whoa there cowboy.
i built that a couple weeks ago with a friend. it bridges a huge mud pit with a spring flowing in it. its in a low part of the trail, impossible to re-route or do anything other than a bridge. squirrel fodder? its built out of a big fucking cedar that was going to fall across the trail. the stringers are huge, the biggest we could lift.
if you go slow its just an up-and-over. a bit faster and you'll air onto the dirt tranny. really fast and you'll send it well past the end onto a low-angle tranny just before the overhead fallen trees. it works really well for me.
I actually said there's no way clark would have built it; I stand corrected. I guess I'll cancel the campfire. You built such a wicked trail and it had one of the best high speed natural singletrack sections in Squamish. I'm genuinely surprised you would choose to try and fix that section in this manner, but that's clearly your choice to make.
I call any kind of wood squirrel fodder, so Cedar needn't take it personally.
Anyway, thanks for the hard work. You can't please everyone and I'm just a serial wood hater.
Spent a few hours yesterday doing drainage work and scooped out the entrance to the new bridge to smooth it out. Double-up over the log into the scoop and send it. Someone is welcome to dirt-top the ramp.
The commitment to the trail is commendable. AM is a trail that has seen a tonne of traffic, and at times a tonne of mindless traffic in bad weather conditions. Big props to the builder for sticking by his work and putting in such effort to keep the trail rideable and enjoyable. :beer::beer:http://bb.nsmb.com/images/smilies/beer.gif
Going to check out Squamish for the first time - was thinking about riding half nelson, full nelson and angry midget. Good plan for my ride Squamish ride or does anyone have any other recommendations? Looking for trails that are easy to navigate that I won't get lost on. Also interested in Credit Line in the Alice Lake area.
Cheers.
You have a pretty good plan there, as you can make use of the new climbing trail that takes you up to AM and Full Nelson - hope you have a granny gear :) There are other trails in that specific area (Cakewalk, 19th, Lowdown, Recycle, Fools Gold and more) that are worth riding.
I'd throw in a lap of Pseudo Tsuga if I were you as well- it's a classic. You can easily fill more than a day of riding with those choices. Also Half Nelson (from the top, not from the mid point where Full Nelson intersects it) is best reached by climbing the fireroad past the SORCA shelter (rather than using the new climbing singletrack).
Credit Line is in good nick right now, but is slippy roots if it rains (which it looks like).
Credit Line is fun, I preferred Crouching Squirrel Hidden Monkey, I felt like it was a little more tech and had more flow for a first-time ride. It's pretty easy to do both on a ride though, either way you'll have fun.
[QUOTE=cerealkilla';2746186]You have a pretty good plan there, as you can make use of the new climbing trail that takes you up to AM and Full Nelson - hope you have a granny gear :) There are other trails in that specific area (Cakewalk, 19th, Lowdown, Recycle, Fools Gold and more) that are worth riding.
I'd throw in a lap of Pseudo Tsuga if I were you as well- it's a classic. You can easily fill more than a day of riding with those choices. Also Half Nelson (from the top, not from the mid point where Full Nelson intersects it) is best reached by climbing the fireroad past the SORCA shelter (rather than using the new climbing singletrack).
Credit Line is in good nick right now, but is slippy roots if it rains (which it looks like).
Thanks for the tips!
In terms of the new climbing trail… I dont think this is on the Squamish trail app yet (which is what I am using as my map)does it start at the bottom of Half Nelson near the parking area and heads up towards the entrance to full nelson? Unfortunately I am riding 1x10 so no granny gear, so maybe the roads are an easier option anyways!
The "new" climbing trail, is an extension of the one that was opened last year (The Legacy trail, aka the Grizz).
The start of the bottom half begins in the lower dirt parking lot just half a km up from the University (this is also where you get spit out of the PSeudo Tsuga-Phil and Cams ride). The first half of the climb takes you up to a logging road, at which point you go right for about 300 metres before ducking back into a short section of singletrack (on your left). Cross another logging road, carry straight onto the spur road on the other side and then take the first right off the spur that leads you into the forest. The trail momentarily travels against the grain on Angry Midget (so beware of downhill traffic). THen it crosses Half Nelson. Again, look uphill before crossing- don't become part of an unplanned people sandwich.
Shortly after crossing Half Nelson (like within 50 m) there is an option to go uphill to the right. Don't do this, keep on the more beaten track. Then it winds through switchbacks in and out of the canopy, eventually leading you up to the Full Nelson entrance. From there, you duck into Full Nelson, but then take the first right (wihtin 25m) to continue uphill on the climb. There are a few minor intersections, but the amount of traffic should make it pretty clear which way to go. You eventually get spit out on an old old logging road. Turn left, go about 50m, and you will be at the top of Angry Midget.
…you know by the rock and the tree with the stump :)
The option there is to keep going past Angry Midget, waste a bunch of your climbing on a double track descent (about half a km with waterbars), and go down to the Half Nelson/Recycle entrance.
Should be lots of traffic on the trails, so you never need to wait more than a few minutes for directions on the go.
If you are starting at the bottom of Half Nelson just head up Ring Creek FSR. On the TrailMapp app it is the little grey road that is in between the words Ring Creek. You cant miss it. Its a great climb.
Thanks for all the tips everyone!
One more question - whats the bear/cougar situation like in Squamish? Reports of the cougar around Alice Lake last year have kept me away from Squamish thus far. Are bear bells and bear mace a must?
Thanks for all the tips everyone!
One more question - whats the bear/cougar situation like in Squamish? Reports of the cougar around Alice Lake last year have kept me away from Squamish thus far. Are bear bells and bear mace a must?
ummm, you do know that 10's of thousands of riders have been enjoying Squamish while you've been scared for a year, right?
ummm, you do know that 10's of thousands of riders have been enjoying Squamish while you've been scared for a year, right?
Hahaha - I'm pretty new to Vancouver (been here 1.5 years) and have been enjoying the North Shore [HTML_REMOVED] Whistler trails up until now. Haven't specifially been avoiding Squamish just because of the cougar, but it does creep me out a little.
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