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2020 Seymour Trail Conditions Thread

Sept. 12, 2020, 4:16 p.m.
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Currently, Trailforks is showing Boogienights as ridden 98% downhill which means 2% of riders have ridden uphill. Even though TF states it's a downhill only trail, I'm not aware of any specific "no entry" signs at the bottom of Boogienights (or John Deere). 

Can anyone confirm this? And does anyone know what the land managers take on this is?

Sept. 12, 2020, 5:22 p.m.
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Boogie nights also gets riders hiking back up it to session... maybe less now than when if first opened, but my assumption would be that 2% noted on TF is most likely from this.

Edit to add...

Boogie Nights & JD are different land mangers. Boogie Nights is District of North Van, JD is owned by CMHC and managed by the province (Rec Sites & Trails).

DNV doesn't really have clear policies (remember they randomly put signs on Ladies to make it bikes only without consulting with anyone... Boogie Nights would be a better place for that signage)

RST does have options to limit user groups or limit user direction on trails. As one of the current builders on JD*, I've advocated for signage on JD for bikes to be restricted to downhill only since it was (re)opened. It needs signs at the bottom that say "Warning! High Speed Bike Traffic. Foot traffic recommended to take Old Buck or Academy Climb / Penny Lane / Good Sir Martin. Bikes downhill only." JD is popular with trail runners & I really really don't like limiting any user groups trail access, so I don't think it should be bikes only, but warning signs with an alternate route suggestion should make for a more pleasant trail experience for everyone.

(*many thanks to Bryce for the original build on JD and Martin for all of the fresh work).

 Last edited by: mudhoney on Sept. 12, 2020, 5:40 p.m., edited 1 time in total.
Sept. 14, 2020, 9:39 a.m.
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worst part is hikers with dogs not on leashes.... come close a few times taking animals out on JD.

 Last edited by: LoamtoHome on Sept. 14, 2020, 9:40 a.m., edited 1 time in total.
Oct. 1, 2020, 11:30 a.m.
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Posted by: PaulB

I've met a guy heading up Boogie Nights on an e-bike, but not an MTB.  With the shiny new bridge at the exit, I think he assumed it was just another general purpose trail going up from Bridle.  I let him know it was a downhill (and often high speed) primary, but he didn't seem to care.

Came around the corner on Boogie Nights before the step-down the other day and two bikers were stopped chatting with two elderly hikers... interestingly they were the same hikers I ran into on the BP between Boogieman and GSM about an hour before on my first lap. They flagged me down to ask for directions to Old Buck and back to the parking lot. How they ended up on Boogie Nights is beyond me, but I am glad they weren't hurt! Ebikers climbing descent trails is just mind boggling, especially if they do it after being told not to and/or seeing people descending at speed.

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