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RCMP Press Release RE Skull Arrest

Jan. 7, 2015, 8:45 a.m.
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This should answer some of the questions regarding this topic.

http://nvan.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/ViewPage.action?siteNodeId=230[HTML_REMOVED]languageId=1[HTML_REMOVED]contentId=40291

Talk less, Say More.

Jan. 7, 2015, 8:52 a.m.
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Hmmm … still no name, but isn't that about the right age for a certain frog-obsessed individual?

Also;

The alleged suspect was brought before a Justice of the Peace and released with conditions to not attend or go near any of the biking trails tampered with.

That's lame. So she could just go to any other of the dozens of trails in the area and keep on truckin'.

When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity.

When many people suffer from a delusion, it is called religion.

Jan. 7, 2015, 9:01 a.m.
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I can confirm it is not who you think it is.

Stop the speculation please as it leads no where and is not true.

Talk less, Say More.

Jan. 7, 2015, 9:07 a.m.
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You want to know a great way to nip speculation in the bud? Fill in the blanks that inquiring minds want to know with facts.

The alleged offender has attended a bail hearing and is subject to bail conditions. There is no longer any right of anonymity accorded to the accused.

When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity.

When many people suffer from a delusion, it is called religion.

Jan. 7, 2015, 9:08 a.m.
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I can confirm it is not who you think it is.

Stop the speculation please as it leads no where and is not true.

Very good advice. This cannot degrade into a mob online lynching.

Jan. 7, 2015, 9:19 a.m.
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247. (1) Every one is guilty of an indictable offence and is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years, who with intent to cause death or bodily harm to a person, whether ascertained or not,

(a) sets or places a trap, device or other thing that is likely to cause death or bodily harm to a person; or

(b) being in occupation or possession of a place, knowingly permits such a trap, device or other thing to remain in that place.

Jan. 7, 2015, 9:36 a.m.
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You want to know a great way to nip speculation in the bud? Fill in the blanks that inquiring minds want to know with facts.

The alleged offender has attended a bail hearing and is subject to bail conditions. There is no longer any right of anonymity accorded to the accused.

I second this motion.

Jan. 7, 2015, 9:42 a.m.
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247. (1) Every one is guilty of an indictable offence and is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years, who with intent to cause death or bodily harm to a person, whether ascertained or not,

(a) sets or places a trap, device or other thing that is likely to cause death or bodily harm to a person; or

(b) being in occupation or possession of a place, knowingly permits such a trap, device or other thing to remain in that place.

That's the maximum sentence. A 64-year old woman, if she has no record, ain't getting jail time, sorry.

Ride, don't slide.

Jan. 7, 2015, 9:44 a.m.
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Sixty four years old. Wow.

Jan. 7, 2015, 9:47 a.m.
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Very good advice. This cannot degrade into a mob online lynching.

Totally. As there are anti-mountain bikers who are mentally unstable enough to do something like this there are likely mountain bikers equally mentally unstable. In that situation, nobody wins and the actions of a couple morons could make the larger cycling population look like idiots to the outsider or neutral party.

Wrong. Always.

Jan. 7, 2015, 9:48 a.m.
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KenN
This individual has yet to be charged, and it's only if and when crown does go through with charges, that this person can be named. No charges, no bail hearing yet.
The wheels of Canadian justice turn slowly.
Let's all be patient. This arrest is a big deal, and the charges police are recommending are Serious criminal charges.

Jan. 7, 2015, 9:48 a.m.
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Story now on CBC local news:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/mountain-bike-trail-traps-trigger-arrest-of-north-vancouver-woman-1.2892616

:canada: :czech:

Jan. 7, 2015, 10:19 a.m.
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This individual has yet to be charged, and it's only if and when crown does go through with charges, that this person can be named. No charges, no bail hearing yet.

I know she hasn't been charged, but there is a court-ordered restriction on her movements. So, if one were out today riding Skull and encountered said individual, how would one know if it is the person who, by court order, is not allowed to be there?

If she ignores the order and is seen on those trails, that is a violation and would add to the charges to be laid. If nobody knows who it is, then she couldn't be caught in this hypothetical violation of a court order.

When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity.

When many people suffer from a delusion, it is called religion.

Jan. 7, 2015, 10:38 a.m.
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Here's what I had to say. Some of my info was gathered from one of the industrious and heroic riders who helped the RCMP make this arrest - who wishes to remain out of the public eye.

http://nsmb.com/rcmp-arrest-trail-saboteur/

Jan. 7, 2015, 10:43 a.m.
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The most important product of this event is the revelation of what lies behind the image. Anti-Mtb folks have consistently sought to frame bikers as irresponsible and destructive dregs of society with no respect for culture, nature, or higher social sensibilities.

This has been countered at every turn with Olympic athletes showing up at Town Council, with MTB associations doing trail work and charitable work, with families out riding bikes, and so forth. Simply put, we are just people that enjoy riding bikes, and it is a task to defend ourselves from the moral entrepreneurs that seek to establish themselves as the legitimate authority over nature.

Yet here we have a 64 year old woman, the consummate demographic of what comprises niceness, decency, and conservative values in our society. I'm talking Peak Freans (ones with the jam in the middle) and tea, hand-knit shawls, nature clubs, and giving someone your seat on the bus. This is the face that has been pitched against the adrenaline-addled, frog-crushing, reckless, nature-destroyers of the MTB world.

But now the veil is lifted. This kindly semi-senior citizen facade of North-Vancouver colonial dignity and decorum is revealed for what it is; a cheap plastic mask over an angry selfish and self-righteous zealot, who thinks only of her own pathetic designs of what is an acceptable way to live, regardless of her impacts on other human beings. Rest assured, this person (if we agree to ascribe her the same personhood status as we confer to those that do not engage in sabotage), this person likely justified her actions to herself over and over again, convincing herself that what she did was right. These justifications will likely be twisted into some new pathetic excuse during the defence process, as the perpetrator seeks to reclaim the victim status that she sought to hide behind during her past efforts to paint MTBers as the enemy.

Watch now this wretch of a human squirm in their snare, and try to wriggle wriggle out of the light that has exposed them as a menace to society. If convicted, yes, it will likely be little more than a suspended sentence, conditional sentence, maybe house arrest, and hopefully a trail ban.

Those most directly affected by these acts should prepare themselves to deliver victim-impact statements on how these actions affected them. This can include statements about how the acts of sabotage affected their mental well-being and interfered with their ability to enjoy the trails (as they have a right to do), and perhaps even physical suffering (or bike damage, hey carbon fiber damage!$$$$$) for anyone who actually crashed as a result of her stupidity. It may be high time to seek out all those affected, and ensure they contribute their piece to the investigation in the form of corroborating evidence that documents the extent of this woman's crimes.

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