Since I'm the only one that made a "communist" remark….
Sorry in advance for the lack of brevity in my rebuttal…
[QUOTE=cerealkilla';1874823]Okay, I say go show up to get the information because public hearings are a vital information for the release of important information, and all you can do is sling pinko slurs?
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Not pinko slurs, but you're the one that came off as anti-business. I never
said pinko nothing. I just made a remark that how you came across and the
video link came across was very full of fear mongering and one sided and
a lot anti capitalist. Since communism is very anti-capitalistic, I felt that
comment to be appropriate.
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Good grief, I posted the invitation to go to an impartial information session because I thought NSMB is full of intelligent people.
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No you posted a very biased opinion in order to get us riled up to go to a informational
meeting to see if they can answer the "tough" questions, implying that they
are lying.
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I don't expect people to uncritically agree with me..
That's not how you came across.
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Yes, I have a bias that is critical of business development WITHOUT ample public consultation. I am critical of privatization of and private privilege to [U]public [/U]resources. I am not critical of every for-profit venture.
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How much public consultation is enough? Will you be satisfied if it doesn't go
as you think it should? Even if the public says ok? Will you believe ANYTHING
that the "big business" scientists say? Or will you just assume they are lying
because they are big business?
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NSMB is a whole community of people that have had to look out for public trail access in the wake of private development. Do youtake the same unquestioning pro-capitalist stance when it comes to ensuring trail access through developments on the North Shore?
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Unrelated
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Crazy is not taking every opportunity to ensure that the parties with the most privilege in society are playing by the rules and not helping themselves to too much of the public trough.
rhetoric
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SOme good points here though, yeah opening up grazing territory has positive affects on certain species. Anyone in forestry can tell you that we have never had more grazing territory in the coastal areas of this province than we do now. However, large continous swaths are not an ideal design, and certainly not this close to the coast. Large continual interruptions tend to alter migratory routes, if anything and cannot be claimed to provide net benefit to wildlife. Still, not the worst thing in the world either.
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more rhetoric
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AS for net output, consumption, no, not at my fingertips. However, I do know that as of 2000, the Mica reservoir was completely surplus . Mica and Revelstoke toegether account for 25% of BC output, so do the math. Do you really think our usage has gone up that much in the last 6 or 7 years with all the additional capacity that has been added? Still, the output-consumption debate is part of a larger argument concerning the development of industry and natural resources in this province.
Admission that you don't know what you're talking about, then you try and hide
it with babble. Oh, and yes I really think BC power use has gone up, way up
in the last 7 years. And going up as we chat.
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BC has, for the most part, invested too heavily in the development of raw resources for export (such as hydro and lumber), and invested too lightly in secondary and tertiary industries. We make hydro to sell, not to fuel industries that provide higher level jobs. We sell it like the rest of our raw resources to our southern neighbours, so they can lead the way in advanced industrial development, while relying too heavily on imports of finished goods.
Our job development is therefore precatiously based on low-level service jobs, and dwindling natural resource jobs that are continously chipped away by automation and technology.
We need to invest more heavily in local secondary and tertiary development, and pursue policies that make better use of the hydro we have within our own borders, instead of upscaling the development of our natural resources for others to use.
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What????
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This is part of a whole political and social approach that is specific to individual party ideologies. Look at the Liberals and ask yourself what kind of development they have been trending towards.
Again, here you show you have an agenda and bias.
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Okay, still think that's crazy? Does it sound like someone who is against all for-profit development. It's more like someone with a well-informed understanding of long-term economic development in a localized and globalized context. Not meaning to toot my horn too loudly, but can you come up with anything better than commie-insults. THose went out with the 80s. Plus, most people who use "commie" as in insult, never read German, ENglish, or Russian history, let alone Marx's original texts.
Sorry, but you are the one clinging to the 80's. I wasn't even trying to insult
you just expressing that the way you were coming across was anti-capitalist,
which in my mind is = to communism. I'm sorry if you think I'm a 14 year old
uneducated kid. Another assumption on your part that is wrong. I'm sorry if
you think Marxism is good. I personally would not look forward to a classless
society, nor do I think we should all be equal just because. There is a difference
in "taking care of each other" and "everyone should be equal". We should have
equal rights, but what we do with those rights should be ours to decide. Not
sure how ENglish or German history really relates to Marxist teachings?
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So, for some of you I suggest to go read a book, or maybe a couple hundred books (not just internet and newspaper sources), and then come back and tell me what you think.
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Again wrong…
If I seem a bit sensitive and defensive, it's because I've had to deal with people
that don't know $hit about what they are talking about and causing us to loose
a very valuable ferry system here in Hawaii. Everyone goes around throwing
out the "profit mongering", "big business" stick. They hide behind some opinions
on environmentalism that have no basis in fact…just because it doesn't "feel
right".
We need big business to get things done. Relying on the government in most
instances will result in waiting till you die of old age or it's too late. Sure, some
big business is bad, and there are plenty of examples of this. There is just as
many examples of government (not JUST the US either) doing some very wrong
things.
While I applaud your fervent drive to do "right", you came across to me as
arrogant, very sure of your "rightness" and a bit fanatical. Very much in the
same light as MC or EC (rip) when it came to MTBing.
I apologize if I offended you by inferring you were a communist, but again, I
am still waiting for your facts, not opinions.