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Opposite sliding corners

May 13, 2016, 10:44 a.m.
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Technique question for you all that I've been trying to work out: what's the advantage of opposite sliding into corners? You see it a lot on video, and when I pay attention I notice that I do this in some cases as well.

However I'm not sure what, if any, advantage comes from it.

By opposite sliding I mean sliding the back end out in the opposite direction to a corner during the setup. Here's a great example: https://youtu.be/DenzJiBJWx0?t=6m14s

I did think that perhaps it works as an extended scandi flick combined with late braking, causing the suspension to compress into the slide, and then unweight to pivot into the turn.

Or maybe there's no advantage at all, but it just looks and feels rad.

May 14, 2016, 1:15 p.m.
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Isn't it just a way to scrub a little speed before sliding a tight corner ? That's what I use it for anyhow plus it looks bad ass and skidding is the best haha

May 14, 2016, 8:19 p.m.
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Or maybe there's no advantage at all, but it just looks and feels rad.

This is why I (try) it sometimes.

I try to do it more as a "drift" than a skid, but who knows how I'm actually doing it.

May 21, 2016, 1:18 a.m.
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I've never done it consciously. For certain corners…it can surely help transfer weight and help grip in the final corner.
If done for aesthetics…whatever floats the boats:)

May 21, 2016, 9:56 a.m.
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Its a little bit scrub, a little bit pre-load for the corner, and a little bit for the show.

May 21, 2016, 12:17 p.m.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8gPY66O1wg

May 21, 2016, 12:50 p.m.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8gPY66O1wg

Ah yes the Scandinavian whip, definitely more helpful to a heavy vehicle to get it to pivot and slide into a corner.
For a bike I would say it's mostly a style. You don't see dirt bikes doing it to set up or get around corners. Just lean harder with opposite stear.

May 21, 2016, 1:14 p.m.
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Ah yes the Scandinavian whip, definitely more helpful to a heavy vehicle to get it to pivot and slide into a corner.
For a bike I would say it's mostly a style. You don't see dirt bikes doing it to set up or get around corners. Just lean harder with opposite stear.

Maybe it´s because of just that? Kind of like whipping the bike in air to keep everything stable and not stalling or tipping over. Hard to explain with my limited english.

May 23, 2016, 3:39 p.m.
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Ha! I'm stoked someone else asked about this. I've always called them "slap turns" and I can never get much answers from my friends. I wonder if they help you go into certain corners with a lot more speed, because as the wheel tries to straighten itself out it slams into the corner putting a lot more pressure on the bike allowing you to have increased traction. Just a guess. They look rad!

I want to learn how to do it, and haven't been able to find someone to either teach me nor could I find any how to videos.

May 23, 2016, 3:58 p.m.
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It helps to scrub speed before a corner.

May 23, 2016, 8:45 p.m.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8gPY66O1wg

This isn't quite a scandi flick though, that needs a much less pronounced turn to the outside than what I'm talking about (much more of a flick in fact) and as far as I understand works to un-weight the suspension as you're turning in to help encourage the slide.

It could be working in the same way though, with braking happening within the "flick".

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