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North Shore Trail Riding Etiquette and Behavior in a Global Pandemic

May 11, 2020, 2:56 p.m.
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Posted by: FLATCH

Posted by: tashi

Houses near mountain biking spots aren’t going anywhere so mountain bikers are going to have to get used to people caring how they behave outside their homes.

I wish I could rep u for that. Mountain biking is a privilege not a right. Some need to remember this.

Mountain biking may be a privilege, but access to our parks is a right to any citizen and street parking is not owned by the homeowner in front despite what they may think.

May 11, 2020, 2:58 p.m.
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Posted by: MaxRockatansky

Also interesting that the districts have closed parking lots and parks / beaches which are free to access, yet seem completely fine with opening golf courses and have no issue with those parking lots being jammed when a substantial fee is involved....

and shopping mall parking....basically parking everywhere except access to outdoor areas, assbackwards....

May 11, 2020, 9:09 p.m.
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Dempsey Braemar area could be next for parking regulations but surprised it hasn't happened yet as the number of people there is insane.  Maybe homeowners don't have that much influence?  Changing people's behavior isn't going to happen... always going to a few.

May 11, 2020, 9:46 p.m.
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Posted by: gramm

Posted by: FLATCH

Posted by: tashi

Houses near mountain biking spots aren’t going anywhere so mountain bikers are going to have to get used to people caring how they behave outside their homes.

I wish I could rep u for that. Mountain biking is a privilege not a right. Some need to remember this.

Mountain biking may be a privilege, but access to our parks is a right to any citizen and street parking is not owned by the homeowner in front despite what they may think.

Sure, but neither the fact that they're in front of someone's house and not actually on their property, nor the fact they are parking there to go to a park and not mountain bike, gives a person unrestricted rights to being an obnoxious douchebag either, regardless.


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May 12, 2020, 4:11 a.m.
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Posted by: gramm

Posted by: FLATCH

Posted by: tashi

Houses near mountain biking spots aren’t going anywhere so mountain bikers are going to have to get used to people caring how they behave outside their homes.

I wish I could rep u for that. Mountain biking is a privilege not a right. Some need to remember this.

Mountain biking may be a privilege, but access to our parks is a right to any citizen and street parking is not owned by the homeowner in front despite what they may think.

When did Fromme become a provincial park?

May 12, 2020, 7:21 a.m.
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Public parking in the Dempsey/Braemar area has been restricted to the north side of Braemar for quite a few weeks now. Residents only on the south side. It's been busy, but when the packed up cars are focused across the road from the residents, that at least provides a bit of a buffer. And the packed area doesn't extend too far away - you can park 300 meters down the road and have all the room you want.

May 12, 2020, 8:11 a.m.
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Posted by: FLATCH

Posted by: gramm

Posted by: FLATCH

Posted by: tashi

Houses near mountain biking spots aren’t going anywhere so mountain bikers are going to have to get used to people caring how they behave outside their homes.

I wish I could rep u for that. Mountain biking is a privilege not a right. Some need to remember this.

Mountain biking may be a privilege, but access to our parks is a right to any citizen and street parking is not owned by the homeowner in front despite what they may think.

When did Fromme become a provincial park?

Fromme is most certainly a park. It's under the DNV, not a provincial park.

May 12, 2020, 8:41 a.m.
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Posted by: mammal

Posted by: FLATCH

Posted by: gramm

Posted by: FLATCH

Posted by: tashi

Houses near mountain biking spots aren’t going anywhere so mountain bikers are going to have to get used to people caring how they behave outside their homes.

I wish I could rep u for that. Mountain biking is a privilege not a right. Some need to remember this.

Mountain biking may be a privilege, but access to our parks is a right to any citizen and street parking is not owned by the homeowner in front despite what they may think.

When did Fromme become a provincial park?

Fromme is most certainly a park. It's under the DNV, not a provincial park.

FLATCH didn't say that Fromme isn't a park, just questioned the idea it is a provincial park

May 12, 2020, 9:10 a.m.
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I can’t find any reference to Fromme being a park.

May 12, 2020, 9:11 a.m.
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Posted by: FLATCH

Posted by: gramm

Posted by: FLATCH

Posted by: tashi

Houses near mountain biking spots aren’t going anywhere so mountain bikers are going to have to get used to people caring how they behave outside their homes.

I wish I could rep u for that. Mountain biking is a privilege not a right. Some need to remember this.

Mountain biking may be a privilege, but access to our parks is a right to any citizen and street parking is not owned by the homeowner in front despite what they may think.

When did Fromme become a provincial park?

I never said it was a "provincial" park; there are many different park designations and people have a right to access them.

and as some have said, Fromme is not actually a park, even though it seems to be managed by DNV as one.  Looking on DNV website it appears to be surplus DNV lands up until the Grouse lands.....still why should residents get to keep people out with NIMBY parking restrictions on roads they dont own?


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May 12, 2020, 9:23 a.m.
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Posted by: andy-eunson

I can’t find any reference to Fromme being a park.

i was wrong with it being an actual park.

May 12, 2020, 10:29 a.m.
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Cause not everyone lives close enough or may not have enough time to easily ride to trails....

May 12, 2020, 10:38 a.m.
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Posted by: gramm

Posted by: FLATCH

Posted by: gramm

Posted by: FLATCH

Posted by: tashi

Houses near mountain biking spots aren’t going anywhere so mountain bikers are going to have to get used to people caring how they behave outside their homes.

I wish I could rep u for that. Mountain biking is a privilege not a right. Some need to remember this.

Mountain biking may be a privilege, but access to our parks is a right to any citizen and street parking is not owned by the homeowner in front despite what they may think.

When did Fromme become a provincial park?

I never said it was a "provincial" park; there are many different park designations and people have a right to access them.

and as some have said, Fromme is not actually a park, even though it seems to be managed by DNV as one.  Looking on DNV website it appears to be surplus DNV lands up until the Grouse lands.....still why should residents get to keep people out with NIMBY parking restrictions on roads they dont own?

Go ask the residents of Riverside drive. The parking is a mile from the trailhead between April and October which I think is lame. A way around it is you can aquire a hiking/parking pass from DNV city hall. Was talking to a guy doing the ticketing when riding thru a while back, he gave me the info.

May 12, 2020, 12:06 p.m.
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Joined: Nov. 8, 2003

Posted by: switch

Posted by: FLATCH

Posted by: tashi

Houses near mountain biking spots aren’t going anywhere so mountain bikers are going to have to get used to people caring how they behave outside their homes.

I wish I could rep u for that. Mountain biking is a privilege not a right. Some need to remember this.

Most excellent point.  Too bad there are too many that abuse that privilege and come up with the dumbest reasons as justification for the abuse.

Yup. And if a friend can't get this it's up to us, their peers, to remind them.

Our weekly climb begins right under the University faculty housing, and they are a crotchety bunch. A new guy started talking loudly and swearing right fucking there on yesterday's ride. We had to tell him to shush repeatedly but he finally looked up at the people on the balconies above scowling down at him and a dim light bulb blinked on.

May 12, 2020, 12:22 p.m.
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Posted by: gramm

Cause not everyone lives close enough or may not have enough time to easily ride to trails....

Anyone can drive from anywhere and park an easy pedalling distance away dispersing the issue, covid or not.

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