Sorry, just to re-cap. From various threads I note:
1) You want to have the choice to ride them on trails when you are old ("while [Drew] may be okay with giving up on riding when you're not longer able, what gives [Drew] the right to make that decision for someone else?")
2) You want to be able to use them to take a weaker rider on longer rides with you (I would have previously guessed you to be more the "earn your stripes" kind of guy vs. the instant gratification sort… But what do I know?).
What other circumstances were on your list?
i'm not the boogeyman here Drew. instead of of going out of your way to paint me as a villain maybe grab the right info and we can have an intelligent debate about it. right now you're just having an emotional rant. i respect you man, but you're going way overboard here in framing this to try and make me look bad. you know i'm smarter than that and am not going to fall for something so bogus.
If it helps you feel better, i'll re-iterate that at this point i am more inclined to say no to their use on the existing trail network but have no problem with them on existing motorized trails or on trails being built for their use.
pretty self explanatory
So to be clear, I think under clearly defined circumstances of health/fintess related reasons, that ebikes are acceptable on regular trails.
first off, the way you paint your statement is outright laughable. i haven't said me having the choice to ride when i'm old, i've talked about a theoretical older rider or one that may be physically challenged. i've said that i don't feel it's fair for you to take that potential choice away from someone. tbh i'm more concerned that you see a maybe 70yr person using an ebike on old buck or bridle path as a potential menace or threat to mountain biking.
so wrt the above quote, these circustances would need to be defined and established. like i said in other posts in can be seen as a quality of life issue, and enjoyment of physical activity or activities that one enjoys can contribute significantly to both mental and physical health. ps, that's not my own conjured up wisdom, that's science telling us that.
On a personal note, I really like the idea of using an ebike to take a friend out for a ride with me that would not have the fitness to complete the ride. If the bike is used in a respectful manner it's not going to do any more damage to the trail than a regular bike. I do realize it has the potential to do a higher level of damage, but that is entirely dependent on the user.
yeah, i do like that idea, for numerous reasons. plus i feel safe about it because i'm not going to take some newbie out to shred the trails. does that danger exist for say another user taking a friend out? maybe. so like i said in my first fb quote and as i've said on here i'm more inclined to not have these things on the local trails and instead maybe establish some new trails for these users.
i have to ask, when did it become not okay to pnder the possibilites of something?
Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity ~ Seneca