Everyone should HTFU and pedal big bikes with road gears up since it would obviously get you in better shape :lol:
"Dont be fooled Timmy, if the cow had a chance he'd kill you and everyone you love."
Everyone should HTFU and pedal big bikes with road gears up since it would obviously get you in better shape :lol:
"Dont be fooled Timmy, if the cow had a chance he'd kill you and everyone you love."
Everyone should HTFU and pedal big bikes with road gears up since it would obviously get you in better shape :lol:
And only on a UCI approved bike and while wearing UCI approved baggy clothes.
As Steve says, an off road climbing trail on Fromme, would be a nice idea, maybe as an extension from the Dempsey/Breamer to 2nd switchback connector .
Or further…
Pedaling a big bike does get you in shape but those mussels won't help you when riding sitting down at a higher cadence.
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Pedaling a big bike does get you in shape but those mussels won't help you when riding sitting down at a higher cadence.
mussels generally don't do a lot for improving your fitness levels but a lot of people do find them delicious.
now, with that out of the way i'd really like to hear your reasoning as to why you think pedaling a big bike up fromme won't help you at all with riding in a sitting position and pedaling at a higher cadence.
We don't know what our limits are, so to start something with the idea of being limited actually ends up limiting us.
Ellen Langer
Big bikes are overkill on Fromme…unless you're hitting the Warden Gap? Or Jerry Rig/Air Supply back when they were rideable. GMG maybe?…When I was young [HTML_REMOVED] dumb, I admit, I brought my DH bike up Fromme a few times, and _pedalled _up to 7th. But then I realized how silly it was-bringing a DH bike that is.
Ok, but…
not everyone can afford a stable of bikes and only have a DH rig. Thirdly, I think even the laziest generally start riding at the bottom and run out of steam.
Yup. :lol:
Pedaling a big bike does get you in shape but those mussels won't help you when riding sitting down at a higher cadence.
surely it will make your legs stronger, therefore when your riding downhill (standing up) it must help. It'll also just make you plain fitter which still comes in handy going downhill, i'm regularly more knackered after riding down than after riding up but then I don't have a magic carpet to take the sting out of the trail.
this bike was regularly pedaled up Fromme by an overweight out of shape 40 year old.
I want to be you when I grow up.
Srsly.
I think even the laziest generally start riding at the bottom and run out of steam.
Nope. Push the whole way.
…those mussels won't help you when riding sitting down at a higher cadence.
I've heard that too. The muscles you use sitting down on a raised saddle climbing a hill are somehow completely different from the ones you use sprinting out of a corner on the downhill. I assume the reason the top guys all ride their stationaries (sp?) between runs is purely cardio. I get that from riding the seatless bike myself.
I will try and put this in a simple way:
If you are hammering at a slower cadence you are doing more strength training than endurance. Thus your metabolic system and sources of energy are much different from a high cadence endurance application. This strength training will help you explode of the starting line but will do little for you if you are trying to improve your cardio. During Anaerobic exercise your systolic and Diasolitc blood pressures both rise, thus for you old men its better for you to do power workouts than do Aerobic exercise. Diasolic BP does not rise in this instance and thus the heart must work harder to push the blood back into the chambers. In short, do endurance and cardio to work on the cycling endurance aspect and leave hammering the big bike to Anaerobic strength/power training.
The muscles from power training when stomping down will help you sitting down but are being exercised at different lengths on the muscle length curve. Thus you are adding more sarcomeres in series at a different opperating length. This is only for optimal gains however.
An example of this is a runner and cyclist will have different optimal operating lengths of the rectus femoris. The cyclist due to the position will have a shorter overall optimal operating length. This will be shown as a rightward shift in the curve putting the descending limb at a longer length for the runner and the opposite for the cyclist.
This thread is making me more sad than the nakedness ban in front of Jenn's house.
This is cycling.
Climb…or at least try for chrissakes.
Im very out of shape right now,after a winter of no skiing or riding.
I'll be damned if I dont get a decent climb in on every ride,just for my muscles' and heart's sake.
…..bunch o' babies. Next we're going to hear that its too hard to climb up from the parking lot at Lynn Valley Mall.
Pastor of Muppets
Let me put this even simpler: when you go for a bike ride, ride your damn bike.
I want to get a shirt that says "Hello. I am here to judge you." And just hang out up there staring at the passers-by.
I'll lend you my grim reapers cape and scythe too for effect
This thread is making me more sad than the nakedness ban in front of Jenn's house.
Im very out of shape right now,after a winter of no skiing or riding.
That explains why she complained, get in shape! LOL :)
Life is like riding a bicycle in order to keep your balance, you must keep moving.
A. Einstein
I will try and put this in a simple way:
If you are hammering at a slower cadence you are doing more strength training than endurance. Thus your metabolic system and sources of energy are much different from a high cadence endurance application. This strength training will help you explode of the starting line but will do little for you if you are trying to improve your cardio. During Anaerobic exercise your systolic and Diasolitc blood pressures both rise, thus for you old men its better for you to do power workouts than do Aerobic exercise. Diasolic BP does not rise in this instance and thus the heart must work harder to push the blood back into the chambers. In short, do endurance and cardio to work on the cycling endurance aspect and leave hammering the big bike to Anaerobic strength/power training.
The muscles from power training when stomping down will help you sitting down but are being exercised at different lengths on the muscle length curve. Thus you are adding more sarcomeres in series at a different opperating length. This is only for optimal gains however.
An example of this is a runner and cyclist will have different optimal operating lengths of the rectus femoris. The cyclist due to the position will have a shorter overall optimal operating length. This will be shown as a rightward shift in the curve putting the descending limb at a longer length for the runner and the opposite for the cyclist.
nice.
yes about the operating lengths, but disagree with comparing a runner to a cyclist when it should be sprint vs endurance cycling, in which case operating lengths differ much less.
edit i also believe alex2 was mentioning using different muscles in was in realtion to griniding out a climb vs spinning up the hill. the difference between sprint postion and grinding up a hill is relatively small when compared to spinning and grinding and/or sprinting. i think josh was talking about sitting upright and spinning. either was, if we look at rom and body position on the bike a hard climbing position is closer to a sprint position than an upright spinning position.
basically their assumption has some merit but not enough to use it as an excuse for not climbing because you don't get any benefit fromme it.
We don't know what our limits are, so to start something with the idea of being limited actually ends up limiting us.
Ellen Langer
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