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From North Shore News - Kraal pleads guilty

Jan. 22, 2016, 9:40 a.m.
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Great response. Glad that was sorted out.

Jan. 22, 2016, 9:44 a.m.
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These boards are a total cesspool.

The terms of use and Rules for the NSMB bulletin boards are broken on a regular basis.

The top 5 especially so.

1.Pornographic or obscene images and text.
2.Excessive or inappropriate language/profanity.
3.Racist images or text.
4.Homophobic images or text.
5.Serious threats of physical violence or mental duress.

It used to be a great place to share information on trail building, organizing rides, charity events for funding trail building and an overall great online place to hang out.

But as long as the clicks and traffic are flowing…

I'm just a volunteer mod, but I (and I'm guessing other mods) can't read everything posted here.

If you think a post crosses one of those lines, use the report post icon on the left:

Jan. 22, 2016, 10:11 a.m.
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I also think that it is a fair outcome. Im pleased that she avoided anything that looked like jail but also that she now has a criminal record that will follow her. Seems appropriate.

If she had of used the claim that she was using the logs and debris to prevent people from standing in spots used by awesome enduro descenders, she may have had a better outcome.

Jan. 22, 2016, 11:59 a.m.
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People issuing threats (if true) discredits everyone who has worked hard to get mountain biking to where it is on the Shore and tarnishes the entire MTB community. You are a disgrace.

say what? who's a disgrace?

We don't know what our limits are, so to start something with the idea of being limited actually ends up limiting us.
Ellen Langer

Jan. 22, 2016, 12:50 p.m.
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say what? who's a disgrace?

Anonymous douchebags who make threats and make us all look bad … not you. You are cool.

Jan. 22, 2016, 3:36 p.m.
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lol - really? link?

Sure it was on the 11 o'clock news, love the way CBC have to get a contrary position on every story even if it is without credibility

Shredding hypothetical gnarr

Jan. 22, 2016, 5:11 p.m.
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Have Gord and Shaun been compensated for the camera gear they purchased? I know there was an online donation that happened, but I never heard if they got the full amount covered. Awesome work guys!

Jan. 22, 2016, 6:03 p.m.
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"The other concern the defense attorney raised with the court is the Crown wants Kraal to do community service for the North Shore Mountain Biking Association, who, as Peters said, are the people that have threatened her since her arrest.

According to Peters, the association “threatened her in the social media, they threatened to kill her, they threatened to damage her house and now the Crown wants her to go work for these people.” He believes, in this case, the court should separate the victim and the offender."

These comments by Martin Peters , in and of itself, are mistruths and defamatory. Comments in video from 2:30 onwards

Link now has footage of Tineke Kraal laying down obstacles; also getting arrested by police

He claims death threats. If this were true, there would be an investigation.

He stated a few times that she placed "sticks" on the trail.

He has a client that has admitted guilt only because of irrefutable evidence.

He is skewing or creating facts to try and reduce the sentence, and he is not ignorant of the actual facts.

If the legal society wants to be appreciated, they should look into this type of legal representation.

I hope the NSMBA writes a letter to the news agencies to refute his slanderous claims.

It is easy to dodge our responsibilities, but we cannot dodge the consequences of dodging our responsibilities.
- Josiah Stamp

Every time I see an adult on a bicycle, I no longer despair for the future of the human race.
- H.G. Wells

Jan. 22, 2016, 6:04 p.m.
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Joined: Nov. 19, 2002

These boards are a total cesspool.

The terms of use and Rules for the NSMB bulletin boards are broken on a regular basis.

The top 5 especially so.

1.Pornographic or obscene images and text.
2.Excessive or inappropriate language/profanity.
3.Racist images or text.
4.Homophobic images or text.
5.Serious threats of physical violence or mental duress.

It used to be a great place to share information on trail building, organizing rides, charity events for funding trail building and an overall great online place to hang out.

But as long as the clicks and traffic are flowing…

It's all about freedom. And excessive testosterone.

It is easy to dodge our responsibilities, but we cannot dodge the consequences of dodging our responsibilities.
- Josiah Stamp

Every time I see an adult on a bicycle, I no longer despair for the future of the human race.
- H.G. Wells

Jan. 22, 2016, 6:25 p.m.
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Have Gord and Shaun been compensated for the camera gear they purchased? I know there was an online donation that happened, but I never heard if they got the full amount covered. Awesome work guys!

Hi,

Please support your local trail association's.

Purchase a Membership or a Trail Pass, or the maps supported by the local area where you happen to be riding at.

We rec'd $500 ish back last year. I sold a camera as well. We did this for the community on the Shore. When you are in a position to help some thing or some cause in the future… give back then.

Peace.

Talk less, Say More.

Jan. 22, 2016, 6:28 p.m.
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Joined: Nov. 19, 2002

Hi,

Please support your local trail association's.

Purchase a Membership or a Trail Pass, or the maps supported by the local area where you happen to be riding at.

We rec'd $500 ish back last year. I sold a camera as well. We did this for the community on the Shore. When you are in a position to help some thing or some cause in the future… give back then.

Peace.

kudos to you guys, love the spirit and attitude, we need more of it around!

Jan. 22, 2016, 6:38 p.m.
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Great response. Glad that was sorted out.

Agreed. Words to live by.

It is easy to dodge our responsibilities, but we cannot dodge the consequences of dodging our responsibilities.
- Josiah Stamp

Every time I see an adult on a bicycle, I no longer despair for the future of the human race.
- H.G. Wells

Jan. 24, 2016, 3:48 p.m.
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Joined: Oct. 25, 2009

Anonymous douchebags who make threats and make us all look bad … not you. You are cool.

Hey now, I'm an anonymous douchebag, don't lump me in with those idiots.

Jan. 24, 2016, 9:12 p.m.
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Joined: Sept. 11, 2003

Hey now, I'm an anonymous douchebag, don't lump me in with those idiots.

OK …. you get a free pass as an anonymous douchebag who isn't an idiot…Next!

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