It's time to let go and not hold a grudge…
Water under the bridge so to speak.
I hope for the best for the kralls and a speedy recovery for Mr krall…were all bigger than this episode….and there are bigger things in life
/thread
Pastor of Muppets
From North Shore News - Kraal pleads guilty
I want to thank my colleague on the investigation and new friend SR for his efforts.
And I want to thank you and Shaun for being so thorough and diligent with this. Awesome work!
Great work on having the surveillance footage available in time for tonight's news. That made a big difference in both the extent and the tone of the coverage.
It's also good to see so many people supporting the balanced sentencing by Judge Milne. Keep it positive, folks!
Sentence seems totally fair.
Thousand thanks to the videographers!
Let's move on.
shit, same nonsense on global news tonight by Peter Martin associating the NSMBA with comments about death threats, bodily harm and property damage to the NSMBA.
I sure hope the board is planning swift action and talking to news agencies tonight so retractions can be offered on tomorrow's news casts otherwise people are going to settle with the idea that the nsmba is responsible for those words.
guys, are you listening?!?!?!
We don't know what our limits are, so to start something with the idea of being limited actually ends up limiting us.
Ellen Langer
And I want to thank you and Shaun for being so thorough and diligent with this. Awesome work!
Great work on having the surveillance footage available in time for tonight's news. That made a big difference in both the extent and the tone of the coverage.
It's also good to see so many people supporting the balanced sentencing by Judge Milne. Keep it positive, folks!
Thank you Alan , it was good to see you in the court room today .
Great work Gordon ,this is an accomplishment that we should be proud of .
Further thanks to all respectful supporters . It's only a few hours after the conclusion , and I am glad this is behind us.
shit, same nonsense on global news tonight by Peter Martin associating the NSMBA with comments about death threats, bodily harm and property damage to the NSMBA.
I sure hope the board is planning swift action and talking to news agencies tonight so retractions can be offered on tomorrow's news casts otherwise people are going to settle with the idea that the nsmba is responsible for those words.
guys, are you listening?!?!?!
Oh that's ok the Cbc got some quotes from Monica, the only person who had a contrary position in the face of video evidence and an admission of guilt
Shredding hypothetical gnarr
Oh that's ok the Cbc got some quotes from Monica, the only person who had a contrary position in the face of video evidence and an admission of guilt
lol - really? link?
We don't know what our limits are, so to start something with the idea of being limited actually ends up limiting us.
Ellen Langer
shit, same nonsense on global news tonight by Peter Martin associating the NSMBA with comments about death threats, bodily harm and property damage to the NSMBA.
I sure hope the board is planning swift action and talking to news agencies tonight so retractions can be offered on tomorrow's news casts otherwise people are going to settle with the idea that the nsmba is responsible for those words.
guys, are you listening?!?!?!
There is no way the current board isn't aware and isn't discussing. Speaking publicly before legal consult would be irresponsible.
I have a really hard time believing that if this lawyer truly screwed up by accident that he will not explain himself if he is pressured to. If he's doing this on purpose, then he will stick to his story. I would like to believe the first is the case.
That said, you could be in contact with the news source and politely inform them of their mistake of passing on incorrect information, suggest that they retroactively do their due diligence and suggest they contact the NSMBA themselves if that's what needs to happen for this to get solved quickly and accurately. And obviously retract what they said publicly.
I'd personally rather not see the NSMBA spend more money on legal fees this year if we can help it - no need for defamation suits if what was said can be publicly corrected without that happening..
There is no way the current board isn't aware and isn't discussing. Speaking publicly before legal consult would be irresponsible.
I have a really hard time believing that if this lawyer truly screwed up by accident that he will not explain himself if he is pressured to. If he's doing this on purpose, then he will stick to his story. I would like to believe the first is the case.
That said, you could be in contact with the news source and politely inform them of their mistake of passing on incorrect information, suggest that they retroactively do their due diligence and suggest they contact the NSMBA themselves if that's what needs to happen for this to get solved quickly and accurately. And obviously retract what they said publicly.
I'd personally rather not see the NSMBA spend more money on legal fees this year if we can help it - no need for defamation suits if what was said can be publicly corrected without that happening..
for sure, but something simple on their web page and facebook page to at least refute those comments would be a good start, the sooner the better. i've already sent out a few emails/msgs as suggested.
We don't know what our limits are, so to start something with the idea of being limited actually ends up limiting us.
Ellen Langer
It's time to let go and not hold a grudge…
Water under the bridge so to speak.
I hope for the best for the kralls and a speedy recovery for Mr krall…were all bigger than this episode….and there are bigger things in life
/thread
Here here. Three Sheets speaks sense.
Let's all forgive and forget and wish them good health and moving on in life.
Yes move on is a great suggestion.
I'm glad the dogs in the video were well behaved in the arrest.
Could have gone sideways real fast if the hounds felt threatened, having guys come out of no where.
Well handled by the police.
People always ask me what's the phenomenon
Yo what's up? Yo what's goin' on- Adam Yauch
he may also be confused due to comments posted on nsmb.
People issuing threats (if true) discredits everyone who has worked hard to get mountain biking to where it is on the Shore and tarnishes the entire MTB community. You are a disgrace.
These boards are a total cesspool.
The terms of use and Rules for the NSMB bulletin boards are broken on a regular basis.
The top 5 especially so.
1.Pornographic or obscene images and text.
2.Excessive or inappropriate language/profanity.
3.Racist images or text.
4.Homophobic images or text.
5.Serious threats of physical violence or mental duress.
It used to be a great place to share information on trail building, organizing rides, charity events for funding trail building and an overall great online place to hang out.
But as long as the clicks and traffic are flowing…
The other concern the defence lawyer raised with the court is the Crown wants Kraal to do community service for the North Shore Mountain Biking Association, who, as Peters said, are the people that have threatened her since her arrest.
According to Peters, the association threatened her in the social media, they threatened to kill her, they threatened to damage her house and now the Crown wants her to go work for these people. He believes, in this case, the court should separate the victim and the offender.
However Peters said in a statement to Global News that he incorrectly identified the group responsible for allegedly harassing her. In in it he said:
Today I gave an interview to Global News in which I referenced messages that had been posted on the nsmb.com forum. In doing so, I at no time meant to imply or suggest that those who had posted messages on the nsmb.com forum were in any way connected with the North Shore Mountain Biking Association. This is a separate organization which I understand is in no way related to nsmb.com forum or those who may have posted messages on it relevant to my client.
NSMBA Vince Beasse also said in an email to Global News that it was not the NSMBA but instead was a forum hosted on an online mountain bike publication, NSMB.com, that allegedly threatened Kraal. The threatening comments made on the online mountain biking site were taken down by moderators.
Beasse said in his email, the NSMBA is a non for profit registered charity whose purpose is to maintain trails on the North Shore. The NSMBA is a voice for the mountain biking community of the North Shore. We protect and maintain the trails as environmental leaders, focused on sustainability through education and action. We develop trail networks that provide challenge and progression while fostering mountain bike culture and a community that embraces our sport as a positive force.
These boards are a total cesspool.
The terms of use and Rules for the NSMB bulletin boards are broken on a regular basis.
The top 5 especially so.
1.Pornographic or obscene images and text.
2.Excessive or inappropriate language/profanity.
3.Racist images or text.
4.Homophobic images or text.
5.Serious threats of physical violence or mental duress.It used to be a great place to share information on trail building, organizing rides, charity events for funding trail building and an overall great online place to hang out.
But as long as the clicks and traffic are flowing…
Many of the threats were on social, on the frontpage and not just on NSMB but on any other media where this news was published. And the news had national coverage about this. Sure these boards are particularly nasty and negative (and increasingly so) but they're not the only source
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