Posted by: cerealkilla_
No, an increase in riders is NOT a behavior in the sense of a specific act. It is the growth of a group. Within that group there are specific behaviors. Most of them good. A small part of them bad.
Where exactly is someone beating a drum about ebikers in general? Stop trying to mispresent other people's points. It is explicitly clear I am referring to a small group (as exists in all groups), and pointing out how the technology introduces distinct considerations to etiquette. Your choice to ignore that point, and try to gloss over, misrepresent, and confuse the issue is just plain weird. Not sure what you are trying to defend here. It's almost as if you choose to ignore other people's points, claim they said they something they did not, and start an argument. THAT is poor etiquette.
Again, misrepresenting and twisting other people words. Again, THAT is a lack of etiquette. If we want to integrate ebikes, very frigging simple...have them follow the same norms and habits as other riders. Surely if you can tie your shoes you can understand that. Or maybe you're a velcro guy. Who knows?
Woah, reel it in there a bit will ya?.
I'm taking a bit of a different context on behaviour and considering it from the greater social sense as opposed to specific in-group behaviours which is why I disagree on your use of the behaviour. Participating in a specific sport is a behaviour as are the ways one conducts themselves in that sport.
Most importantly though I'm not trying to misrepresent your words, I'm speaking to the general case and using observation of how a fair number of riders are anti-ebike in their commentary about ebikes. There are plenty examples of ebike dislike in this thread, on other threads in this forum and all over social media in general. It's not hard to find someone talking bad about ebikes. I'll excuse your velcro comment as you're misinterpreting what I said with that last comment - I'm agreeing with you and saying the same thing. In fact, I've been saying that very thing since the debate about ebikes kicked off. That question was a rhetorical statement saying that we can't expect to integrate ebikers if they're are being maligned by regular bikers because they won't want to participate with people who are shaming them. This is critical, because of ebikes are going to become the dominant mode of participating on mtb'ing then it's critical to engage people with the idea of participating in good trail etiquette, which includes riding in a manner that does not cause excess erosion and participating in trail orgs in some capacity.