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March 24, 2021, 9:11 p.m.
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This is 16000 CAD starting

While this is $9500 CAD starting

Pinkbike is singing the praises of the new 16000 dollar ebike. Who wants simulated bicycling that badly? $16000? That's insane.


 Last edited by: RAHrider on March 24, 2021, 9:51 p.m., edited 1 time in total.
March 24, 2021, 10:11 p.m.
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$19,400 for this bad boy. a bit disappointed they didn't just go for the gusto & punch through that $20k barrier.

but yeah, you can buy some really nice motos for that price. it boggles *my* frugal mind, but evidently there's a market for such things, so more power to them, i guess?


 Last edited by: xy9ine on March 24, 2021, 10:11 p.m., edited 1 time in total.
March 25, 2021, 4:14 a.m.
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All Specialized bikes are very overpriced, but that is pretty crazy.

March 25, 2021, 3:07 p.m.
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Posted by: RAHrider

This is 16000 CAD starting

While this is $9500 CAD starting

Pinkbike is singing the praises of the new 16000 dollar ebike. Who wants simulated bicycling that badly? $16000? That's insane.

Or better yet

https://www.ktm.com/en-ca/models/e-ride/freeride/ktm-freeride-e-xc2021.html $13999 CAD and it's electric.

That Specialized is actually the first ebike that sort of ticks all the boxes but that price is astonishing. Especially considering it's a very corporate one-size-fits-most sort of thing as far as spec.


 Last edited by: craw on March 25, 2021, 3:07 p.m., edited 1 time in total.
March 25, 2021, 4:40 p.m.
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Fear not! E-bikes are NOT PST exempt. 

$15000USD = ~$18900CAD x 1.12 = $21,170CAD

Wow. Just wow.

March 25, 2021, 6:02 p.m.
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Remember when this was a dirtbag sport?

March 25, 2021, 6:26 p.m.
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dirt·bag

/ˈdərtbaɡ/

nounderogatory•informal

noun: dirtbag; plural noun: dirtbags; noun: dirt-bag; plural noun: dirt-bags

a very unkempt or unpleasant person.

Well, considering how judgemental and unpleasant a lot of people in the MTB community seem to be I would say it still might be a dirtbag sport.

March 26, 2021, 6:27 a.m.
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Posted by: FLATCH

All Specialized bikes are very overpriced, but that is pretty crazy.

Not all of them, check out the new Status.  At $1,000 retail the framesets are literally half the cost of anything comparable.  

Yes, the "halo" Specialized stuff is way overpriced but their entry-to-mid level stuff is actually a pretty good value.

March 26, 2021, 7:58 a.m.
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Posted by: JohnnyRyall

Posted by: FLATCH

All Specialized bikes are very overpriced, but that is pretty crazy.

Not all of them, check out the new Status.  At $1,000 retail the framesets are literally half the cost of anything comparable.  

Yes, the "halo" Specialized stuff is way overpriced but their entry-to-mid level stuff is actually a pretty good value.

Now if only they would deign to make available 530mm+ of reach in an S6 for regular bikes.

March 26, 2021, 8:25 a.m.
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^that didn't have the same cs length as the S1? the levo is offered in a range of reaches spanning 120mm - all sporting the same chainstay. specialized is doing incredibly advanced work in many areas, that they're still oblivious to addressing front / rear balance - for all sizes - is a bit surprising.

March 26, 2021, 8:43 a.m.
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Posted by: thaaad

dirt·bag

/ˈdərtbaɡ/

nounderogatory•informal

noun: dirtbag; plural noun: dirtbags; noun: dirt-bag; plural noun: dirt-bags

a very unkempt or unpleasant person.

Well, considering how judgemental and unpleasant a lot of people in the MTB community seem to be I would say it still might be a dirtbag sport.

Dang, you gotta switch up your scene a bit then, the riders I come across (IRL anyway) are way more pleasant than the general population.

March 26, 2021, 9:23 a.m.
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Posted by: xy9ine

^that didn't have the same cs length as the S1? the levo is offered in a range of reaches spanning 120mm - all sporting the same chainstay. specialized is doing incredibly advanced work in many areas, that they're still oblivious to addressing front / rear balance - for all sizes - is a bit surprising.

To be fair it's probably better value/marketing ROI to promote so-called innovation in batteries and motors to well-heeled noobs than something a lot less sexy like bikes actually, you know, fitting people.

March 26, 2021, 2:07 p.m.
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Posted by: craw

Posted by: xy9ine

^that didn't have the same cs length as the S1? the levo is offered in a range of reaches spanning 120mm - all sporting the same chainstay. specialized is doing incredibly advanced work in many areas, that they're still oblivious to addressing front / rear balance - for all sizes - is a bit surprising.

To be fair it's probably better value/marketing ROI to promote so-called innovation in batteries and motors to well-heeled noobs than something a lot less sexy like bikes actually, you know, fitting people.

(dorky rant) - if you use the same ratio of chainstay to reach of the s1 & apply that to the s4, joe average would be on 512mm chainstays. extrapolating from the s6, he'd be on 396mm stays. you can have dialed geometry - but only if you ride a medium. and this seems ok for a TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLAR bicycle? it's not hard to accommodate different lengths (relatively) cheaply - ie, via axle flip chips, or just moving things around a bit in the front triangle a la norco. the bike industry - so dumb sometimes.


 Last edited by: xy9ine on March 26, 2021, 2:08 p.m., edited 1 time in total.
March 26, 2021, 4:31 p.m.
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The next wave is here. There's a couple of DBs on full electric dirtbikes (class 3 ebike throttle twisters) ripping up the trails in Squamish. Looks like 3 inch tires - so perfect for accessing riding trails and ripping the dirt off them. Not electric trials bikes, and not pedelecs. 

Been spotted in the Alice Lake Park, district trails and bike paths, private lands where dirt-bikes are prohibited, and on trails recognized by most rational residents as MTB-Trials only based on user-group agreements.

As more of these things are sold without any sort of guidance on their use from the sellers and marketers, it's just going to get messier - and the trails and trail access will suffer the most.

March 26, 2021, 7:48 p.m.
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Posted by: cerealkilla_

The next wave is here. There's a couple of DBs on full electric dirtbikes (class 3 ebike throttle twisters) ripping up the trails in Squamish. Looks like 3 inch tires - so perfect for accessing riding trails and ripping the dirt off them. Not electric trials bikes, and not pedelecs. 

Been spotted in the Alice Lake Park, district trails and bike paths, private lands where dirt-bikes are prohibited, and on trails recognized by most rational residents as MTB-Trials only based on user-group agreements.

As more of these things are sold without any sort of guidance on their use from the sellers and marketers, it's just going to get messier - and the trails and trail access will suffer the most.

It was inevitable, but most people seem to ignore this since the beginning. Once you put a motor on something you can be sure they will only keep getting stronger and faster. The cyclepaths here are full of e-scooters and e-motorcycles that look like small moto gp bikes and they whizz by quite fast. But since they have pedals, they're "legal". 

Since the motors and batteries will keep getting smaller and more integrated, I'm having a hard time figuring out how trail centres will enforce a no-e-motorcycle policy if they can't differentiate them from ebikes. (Because yes, here in Quebec everywhere you ride (90% of the trails) you have to do it at a trail centre and pay a day pass even if there is no shuttle or lift, and they have people patrolling to check tickets and stuff.)

This is not the mountain biking experience I signed up for when I started 25 years ago! 😅 Sorry for the rant!

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