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ebikes on the Shore

Dec. 13, 2019, 11:46 a.m.
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Posted by: peterk

hypothetical question: I'm sure rebates for e-bikes are not too far away. Sure, they should be intended for commuting to take cars off the roads, but I bet that can be stretched to that 160mm eMTB. Say you get $1000 back for buying an e-bike, bringing them closer in line with a similar spec mtb, but with a motor! Would you? Will tempt a lot of even the hard line riders.

I wouldn't be tempted at all. Cost is not the main reason I don't have an e-mtb.

Dec. 13, 2019, 1:32 p.m.
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Posted by: D_C_

Posted by: peterk

hypothetical question: I'm sure rebates for e-bikes are not too far away. Sure, they should be intended for commuting to take cars off the roads, but I bet that can be stretched to that 160mm eMTB. Say you get $1000 back for buying an e-bike, bringing them closer in line with a similar spec mtb, but with a motor! Would you? Will tempt a lot of even the hard line riders.

I wouldn't be tempted at all. Cost is not the main reason I don't have an e-mtb.

Prob not. I never bought snowblades either when they were apparently the wave of the future of skiing.

Dec. 13, 2019, 1:51 p.m.
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Posted by: Brocklanders

Prob not. I never bought snowblades either when they were apparently the wave of the future of skiing.

Huh, for some strange reason I can totally see you on a pair of snowblades.

Dec. 13, 2019, 9:22 p.m.
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Posted by: syncro

Posted by: Brocklanders

Prob not. I never bought snowblades either when they were apparently the wave of the future of skiing.

Huh, for some strange reason I can totally see you on a pair of snowblades.

You can do better

Dec. 16, 2019, 5:51 a.m.
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Posted by: peterk

Say you get $1000 back for buying an e-bike, bringing them closer in line with a similar spec mtb, but with a motor! Would you? Will tempt a lot of even the hard line riders.

You could give me a free e-bike and my only two thoughts would be do I 1) accept and sell it for some $$ or 2) just steer clear of the whole mess? There is no price tag that I would spend my own money on one or ride one. At no point when I am riding my mountain bikes do I ever think to myself.....hmmmm....this would be so much better with a motor and battery.

This isn't such a far fetched scenario as I was given a free e-bike [city/commuter model] to review a while back. After doing the review I gave it away to a friend for free. I had zero use for it. There is no place I wanted to get to where a human powered bicycle wasn't my preferred option. He used it for a while and it's now gathering dust in his garage as it has some electrical issue he needs to sort out.


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Dec. 16, 2019, 7:22 a.m.
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Posted by: peterk

Say you get $1000 back for buying an e-bike, bringing them closer in line with a similar spec mtb, but with a motor! Would you? Will tempt a lot of even the hard line riders.

No

Dec. 16, 2019, 7:42 a.m.
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No. I'd potentially be tempted to get one if I was building a trail that was 'out there', to speed up proceedings, but even then I'd probably get something completely different like an E-assist fat bike. I've got no interest in getting the same style bike but with a motor when I have 'sort of...' working legs. And the whole 'you can get more laps in', will be the death of many trails.

Dec. 16, 2019, 12:09 p.m.
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Posted by: peterk

hypothetical question: I'm sure rebates for e-bikes are not too far away. Sure, they should be intended for commuting to take cars off the roads, but I bet that can be stretched to that 160mm eMTB. Say you get $1000 back for buying an e-bike, bringing them closer in line with a similar spec mtb, but with a motor! Would you? Will tempt a lot of even the hard line riders.

For commuting? Sure. For riding on the trails? No thanks.

Dec. 16, 2019, 12:29 p.m.
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Posted by: D_C_

Posted by: peterk

hypothetical question: I'm sure rebates for e-bikes are not too far away. Sure, they should be intended for commuting to take cars off the roads, but I bet that can be stretched to that 160mm eMTB. Say you get $1000 back for buying an e-bike, bringing them closer in line with a similar spec mtb, but with a motor! Would you? Will tempt a lot of even the hard line riders.

I wouldn't be tempted at all. Cost is not the main reason I don't have an e-mtb.

Seriously. We have chairlifts and trucks and yet most people still like to climb. Once bikes improved and we got more climbing trails people went back to climbing rather than shuttle. Chairlifts and sleds exist and yet people still want to go ski touring. Adding a motor somehow dilutes and alters what people really like about riding.

Dec. 16, 2019, 4:29 p.m.
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Posted by: craw

Posted by: D_C_

Posted by: peterk

hypothetical question: I'm sure rebates for e-bikes are not too far away. Sure, they should be intended for commuting to take cars off the roads, but I bet that can be stretched to that 160mm eMTB. Say you get $1000 back for buying an e-bike, bringing them closer in line with a similar spec mtb, but with a motor! Would you? Will tempt a lot of even the hard line riders.

I wouldn't be tempted at all. Cost is not the main reason I don't have an e-mtb.

Seriously. We have chairlifts and trucks and yet most people still like to climb. Once bikes improved and we got more climbing trails people went back to climbing rather than shuttle. Chairlifts and sleds exist and yet people still want to go ski touring. Adding a motor somehow dilutes and alters what people really like about riding.

Couldn’t be more true for some. For some it enhances the ride. Basically different strokes for different folks. Personally, it’s made single track climbs really fun for me. It’s been good for both my knees and my heart. Two years ago I developed bursitis in both knees, right then the left. Struggled with that for 8 months, even wondered if my time to ride was expiring. Now I’m having a blast again.

Dec. 16, 2019, 5:44 p.m.
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Posted by: FLATCH

Posted by: craw

Posted by: D_C_

Posted by: peterk

hypothetical question: I'm sure rebates for e-bikes are not too far away. Sure, they should be intended for commuting to take cars off the roads, but I bet that can be stretched to that 160mm eMTB. Say you get $1000 back for buying an e-bike, bringing them closer in line with a similar spec mtb, but with a motor! Would you? Will tempt a lot of even the hard line riders.

I wouldn't be tempted at all. Cost is not the main reason I don't have an e-mtb.

Seriously. We have chairlifts and trucks and yet most people still like to climb. Once bikes improved and we got more climbing trails people went back to climbing rather than shuttle. Chairlifts and sleds exist and yet people still want to go ski touring. Adding a motor somehow dilutes and alters what people really like about riding.

Couldn’t be more true for some. For some it enhances the ride. Basically different strokes for different folks. Personally, it’s made single track climbs really fun for me. It’s been good for both my knees and my heart. Two years ago I developed bursitis in both knees, right then the left. Struggled with that for 8 months, even wondered if my time to ride was expiring. Now I’m having a blast again.

I don't need to hurt to know that I am getting older and I still like to go at the speed or more that I used to be able to go on a much more capable bike then when I was 25 ( that would make it 1995) That year I built up a Proflex 855 with a Judy SL and V brakes for about $5G's so now buying a used e-bike at $3500 was a no brainer.

Dec. 17, 2019, 11:15 a.m.
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It's just endless with human lazyness.

How to get razzed beyond belief in the lineup.

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Dec. 17, 2019, 11:39 a.m.
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I am excited for my e-hiker to show up. No more being last to the top of the mountain in my group of friends. In fact I can do two big hikes in a day no problem now. ;) #progress

Dec. 18, 2019, 7:30 a.m.
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Posted by: Vikb

I am excited for my e-hiker to show up. No more being last to the top of the mountain in my group of friends. In fact I can do two big hikes in a day no problem now. ;) #progress

Good one. I personally am not fond of hiking so I will skip.

Dec. 18, 2019, 8:54 a.m.
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Posted by: peterk

hypothetical question: I'm sure rebates for e-bikes are not too far away. Sure, they should be intended for commuting to take cars off the roads, but I bet that can be stretched to that 160mm eMTB. Say you get $1000 back for buying an e-bike, bringing them closer in line with a similar spec mtb, but with a motor! Would you? Will tempt a lot of even the hard line riders.

I have to disagree, as some of the older peeps on here as well. 

Sidenote: I do not live on or near the Shore so please keep that in mind. 

Right now I have a 21km commute one way, give and take a few when I go by bike. I live on top of a pretty steep hill, road has at times a 18% gradient which is pretty much in my parts of the world and I (still) hate climbing, kind of. 

Right now I have two choices:

1. Get an ebike. 

2. Use my car and simply drive a bit, at present about 2 km. Advantage: I still save a shitload of gas and do not kill myself on that climb and commute by bike everyday - and get fitter until I can ride all of it. 

Point is....I think if healthy there are two types of riders, purely seen in black and white (which is not how life is working but...). 

One who embraces ebikes for comfort, the other loves the challenge without any assistance.

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