Posted by: syncro
Posted by: Henry-Chinaski
I don't understand what you're going on about? During one of his childlike rants, Norona alluded to the recycling of his batteries. Rightly, someone asked him where he recycled these batteries. His response (though hard to read) suggests that he doesn't recycle the batteries and that everyone who rides a bike for leisure is a hypocrite. What am I missing?
I'm not a pedal-assist hater, but I think it's important to point out that the footprint is bigger with these bikes. All personal mountain bike consumption is not equal. One of my favorite riding partners is on a 2006 Slayer and can't be bothered with the marketing. He consumes far less than I do. We should all acknowledge that there is a continuum of consumption and recognize where we exist on its scale. Far more important than generating funding for trail crews.
Maybe I overstated the dogpile analogy, but so is saying that his post was a childlike rant. His response was that he's kept most of those ebikes short term and then sold them on to other people so the batteries didn't need to get recycled as they were still in use. He also stated that the batteries are good for many thousands of km's. The hypocrite suggestion came from the idea that a pedal mtb is way more green than an e-mtb. Sure the pedal mtb seems greener, but it's not by a huge margin. For example if the ebike is being ridden to the trail head instead of being driven then there's a chance the ebike may actually be more green. I'm not sure where you're from, but in BC there are mandatory recycling programs for most things these days including batteries, so the chance of an ebike battery here in BC not getting recycled is probably pretty low.
I agree that the footprint with ebikes is potentially bigger, but it's not guaranteed. Like you say there is a continuum of consumption and waste. Maybe that is more important than generating funding for trail crews but it's a bit off topic from my previous post that got this green bit started of trying to tie trail funding to mtb'ing purchases considering that they are essentially a luxury item - especially if one is buying new.
Syncro, I agree with most of what you post here but I cannot get on board with luxury taxes for mtb. The government spends tons of money on things for the health of our population. Swimming pools, tennis courts, beaches etc. Volunteer built and maintained trails on vacant land is far from a luxury activity. Sure, I have some nice bikes but that doesn't mean I'm rich. Many mountain bikers arrive with bikes on their trailer hitch that are worth more than the car carrying them.
Mountain biking is a decent tourist draw for BC. It has literally transformed towns like squamish and Cumberland. In Cumberland, there are more people in the Forrest than in the community centre any night of the week. In my opinion the government should be spending more on mountain biking. Creating access to quality trails is good for the health of our population and the economy.
I pay way more taxes than I would prefer and aside from streets and sewage, use very little our government provides. I don't see Mountain biking as a luxury activity, save that monicker for golf or something like that. That being said, I do believe everyone should be contributing through donations, trail passes and participating in maintenance