Posted by: FLATCH
and 'killa, if you want to call norona out for name calling, for fuck sakes man, go back and read the whole thread. i think the scoreboard is pretty lopsided to the nays.
That's not the point I was seeking Flatch. Norona is one of best positioned people to contribute to a proper discussion of ebike use from THAT user group. I have indeed suggested he not engage in name-calling. I try to avoid stooping to that too. I honestly think that some of the nay arguments are just as garbage as some of the yay arguments.
If I'm calling him out on anything, it's to engage in serious conversation about the specific issues that I find troublesome (stated earlier). I give zero fks about what people ride and how they get to the top. However, when I see things that either have potential to cause conflict or that imperil trail access, I (very seriously and genuinely) want all hands on board in the conversation, including Norona. I remain interested in hearing anything he has to say about the 3 questions I posed. Filter out the nonsense and trolling, and there is occasional value in the information he provides.
I have no interest in a public pillory for any individual here. I humbly suggest that people stick to issues that matter, and challenge others to answer. Those that want to troll will have little influence on outcomes when the province revisits their policy in 2-3 years. If anyone thinks that an online war between two polarized viewpoints is going to produce better outcomes, I think they're misguided. However, the stakes (and expectations) are higher for a person that represents brands. Nobody at Devinci or other makers would be impressed if they thought one of their rep's marketing strategies was to dismiss (and at times insult) people with genuine concerns about how to properly integrate their products into trail-use frameworks.
Indeed, this is a 28-page thread, that has a lot of wasted words and thoughts......for what end. There is ZERO to gain in a discussion of "earning turns", who is cheating who, who is fat, who is a noob, and so forth. The discussion of ebikes needs to evolve, hopefully to a more civil conversation, and one that gets to the point. That stands for all of us, not just Norona. Just my two bits.