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ebikes on the Shore

June 6, 2018, 2:26 p.m.
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Posted by: Endur-Bro

Posted by: JBV

I have enough pedal powered bicycles now that I can't see myself needing to purchase one with a large battery attached to it.  If I need to cover more ground I'll get a KTM woods bike or a trials bike.

Exactly. Electric trials for short jaunts are already here.

June 7, 2018, 11:25 a.m.
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Saw a guy on an ebike absolutely flying up Mountain Highway last night between the 5th and 6th switchback. Must have been doing 30 km/h or more and totally silent. He was pedaling hard but man I was surprised by the speed. Fit looking dude as well. Not really much danger on a fire road but made me think what about a double track/single track? It reminded me of dirtbikes passing you in Squamish on fire roads (where they have every right to be) except it's silent whereas you hear the dirtbike coming a mile away so you can move over. Again, nothing about this specific rider put me off, just food for thought.

With that climbing speed you could put in 3 laps up to 7th from the parking lot after work no problem.

Jan. 11, 2019, 7:26 p.m.
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how has that bot not been nuked already?

Jan. 16, 2019, 8:32 a.m.
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Wow did this thing every go up in flames.

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/video-bike-explodes-as-aftermarket-motor-catches-fire.html

Jan. 16, 2019, 11:58 a.m.
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So will Strava be adding an e-bike option to distinguish between climbing performances?

Jan. 16, 2019, 12:45 p.m.
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There already is. But up to the user to pick it obviously

Jan. 16, 2019, 7:45 p.m.
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Posted by: Brocklanders

Wow did this thing every go up in flames.

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/video-bike-explodes-as-aftermarket-motor-catches-fire.html

I love this! His e moped exploded. Thank you for sharing.

Glad he wasn't hurt but not sad to see an emoped explode

Jan. 17, 2019, 12:45 p.m.
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Harley Davidson and Maxim giving the finger to trail access advocates everywhere.

HARLEY-DAVIDSON UNLEASHES 2 NEW ELECTRIC MOUNTAIN BIKE CONCEPTS, "pedal less mountain bikes".

Or as I like to call it, the worst of both worlds.


 Last edited by: craw on Jan. 17, 2019, 12:47 p.m., edited 3 times in total.
Jan. 17, 2019, 1:25 p.m.
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Posted by: craw

Harley Davidson and Maxim giving the finger to trail access advocates everywhere.

HARLEY-DAVIDSON UNLEASHES 2 NEW ELECTRIC MOUNTAIN BIKE CONCEPTS, "pedal less mountain bikes".

Or as I like to call it, the worst of both worlds.

The pendelecs are just the wedge in the door. Will be interesting to see how the bike industry reacts to the motorbike industry making these things, branding them a bicycle. Who is going to spend the day at the trailheads regulating what ebikes are permitted on trails and those that are not? Now one sees why places like Moab said no motors of any kind, they could see this coming.


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Jan. 21, 2019, 12:23 p.m.
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Posted by: Brocklanders

Posted by: craw

Harley Davidson and Maxim giving the finger to trail access advocates everywhere.

HARLEY-DAVIDSON UNLEASHES 2 NEW ELECTRIC MOUNTAIN BIKE CONCEPTS, "pedal less mountain bikes".

Or as I like to call it, the worst of both worlds.

The pendelecs are just the wedge in the door. Will be interesting to see how the bike industry reacts to the motorbike industry making these things, branding them a bicycle. Who is going to spend the day at the trailheads regulating what ebikes are permitted on trails and those that are not? Now one sees why places like Moab said no motors of any kind, they could see this coming.

Obviously the ebike riders and online advocates are going to form actual advocacy groups and work hand in hand with MTB advocacy groups to deal with this issue, education and enforcement, right? Oh wait... crickets.

Jan. 21, 2019, 12:31 p.m.
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Posted by: craw

Harley Davidson and Maxim giving the finger to trail access advocates everywhere.

HARLEY-DAVIDSON UNLEASHES 2 NEW ELECTRIC MOUNTAIN BIKE CONCEPTS, "pedal less mountain bikes".

Or as I like to call it, the worst of both worlds.

I wasn't going to say anything but do you not see how Maxim has completely butchered and misconstrued the HD product? Especially the headline? There's no way that's a bicycle of any kind - no pedals, no ability to pedal, throttle control - that's an electric dirt bike. Same for the scooter model, it's an electric scooter.

The irony here is that when the shoe is on the other foot people are bringing up inaccurate reporting in the media and talking about inflammatory headlines.

Jan. 21, 2019, 5:12 p.m.
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Posted by: syncro

Posted by: craw

Harley Davidson and Maxim giving the finger to trail access advocates everywhere.

HARLEY-DAVIDSON UNLEASHES 2 NEW ELECTRIC MOUNTAIN BIKE CONCEPTS, "pedal less mountain bikes".

Or as I like to call it, the worst of both worlds.

I wasn't going to say anything but do you not see how Maxim has completely butchered and misconstrued the HD product? Especially the headline? There's no way that's a bicycle of any kind - no pedals, no ability to pedal, throttle control - that's an electric dirt bike. Same for the scooter model, it's an electric scooter.

The irony here is that when the shoe is on the other foot people are bringing up inaccurate reporting in the media and talking about inflammatory headlines.

Your version of motorbike and mine are different I guess. The guy riding up the Hyannis climb from Fishermans yesterday on Divinci ebike was absolutely ripping uphill. Just because it has a crankset instead of pegs doesn't mean it's not a motorbike.

Jan. 21, 2019, 5:34 p.m.
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Posted by: Brocklanders

Your version of motorbike and mine are different I guess. The guy riding up the Hyannis climb from Fishermans yesterday on Divinci ebike was absolutely ripping uphill. Just because it has a crankset instead of pegs doesn't mean it's not a motorbike.

For sure we don't 100% agree and there's probably no point getting into an argument on the semantics on that. However the article that Craw linked to is nowhere in the same realm as a pedal assist ebike. To try and cloud the issue with that sort of misinformation and establish some sort of equivalency is disingenuous. Like I said, put the same spin on different topic and a lot of people here would be howling in protest about it being a bad article.

Edit:
By the way, was the guy riding uphill being a dick? Was he buzzing other riders, not giving enough space when passing or not announcing his passing? If so I would have yelled at him to check his behaviour. If not and he was respecting other users and the trails then what's the issue?


 Last edited by: syncro on Jan. 21, 2019, 5:37 p.m., edited 2 times in total.
Jan. 21, 2019, 5:37 p.m.
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Posted by: Brocklanders

Posted by: syncro

Posted by: craw

Harley Davidson and Maxim giving the finger to trail access advocates everywhere.

HARLEY-DAVIDSON UNLEASHES 2 NEW ELECTRIC MOUNTAIN BIKE CONCEPTS, "pedal less mountain bikes".

Or as I like to call it, the worst of both worlds.

I wasn't going to say anything but do you not see how Maxim has completely butchered and misconstrued the HD product? Especially the headline? There's no way that's a bicycle of any kind - no pedals, no ability to pedal, throttle control - that's an electric dirt bike. Same for the scooter model, it's an electric scooter.

The irony here is that when the shoe is on the other foot people are bringing up inaccurate reporting in the media and talking about inflammatory headlines.

Your version of motorbike and mine are different I guess. The guy riding up the Hyannis climb from Fishermans yesterday on Divinci ebike was absolutely ripping uphill. Just because it has a crankset instead of pegs doesn't mean it's not a motorbike.

Agree with you that these things are more like motor bikes than bicycles.  The 6 dudes on e-bikes who passed us on No Quarter where definitely roosting up rocks. Whoever says that e-bikes don't do any more trail damage than  bicycles doesn't know what they are talking about.

March 18, 2019, 2:08 p.m.
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