Posted by: earleb
Any claims of "only 250w" is hogwash.
http://www.ebikes.ca/learn/power-ratings.html
https://ebike-mtb.com/en/all-2019-haibike-flyon-models-with-tq-motor-at-a-glance/
630w with 120nm of torque. The motor in this can be had with the same "250w" claim on it, yet still rated to 120nm of torque, or with a claim of 920w.
So now loop back to that top link...claimed outputs are kinda meaningless and all motors put out more than the claim. The "speed limited" is all software.
Go have a good about de-restricting the e-bikes. Options available for most all models. Now Dave is going to chime in saying "that's breaking the law", yep breaking the law. Why isn't this an issue when someone want to put a turbo on their mountain sled? Or pipes on their woods moto? Well it's because these are understood to be motorized and you can do whatever you want to make that motor more powerful. The ONLY reason laws exist on an electric bicycle is a stop gap to attempt to allow them to play nice with human power bicycles and integrate with human powered bicycles.
It's motorized and thus should be treated separate from non-motorized bicycles. Once we're all in agreement here then we can look at what trail networks should or shouldn't allow this new class of electric motorized bicycle.
Do more research 630 w is the watt hr of the battery, bikes are sitting now at 500 watt hrs meaning at 250 watts you will go 2 hrs on the flat at ful power, that new hiabike is at 630 watt hrs giving u more range not power, as is what I stated earlier. You can already buy a back up water bottle battery and add it that is another 500 watt hours giving u 1000 watt hours on the battery, this doe not give u more power but more range. This is where I are getting confused.
In the alps the most guarded mountain range in the world that see the most usership ebikes have taken off and is where the pedltec has been created.
For this first time this season ebikes mountain bike sales have surpassed legacy bike sales, and ebikes of all kinds now make up over 70% of sales there.
Sorry , don t hate the messenger, they are coming! And when you are currently usIng legalities, I would like to ask you, have you ever ridden an illegally built trail, do you currently ride and illegally built trail, and have you ever ridden in garibaldi, manning park or other areas that say no to bikes. I doubt anyone on this forum who rides a lot or for a long time can say no to the above, and many others don’t even know if they have since they really don’t know, don’t ask or care.