Posted by: norona
Posted by: ReductiMat
Posted by: norona
Posted by: Ddean
Norona says that if you haven’t ridden an ebike that you can’t comment because you don’t know.
Then when people who have ridden them outline their experience, he says they’re wrong.
Then Norona comes out with his own theories that ebikes cause no more wear, likely less, than regular bikes and with some amazing hypothetical numbers as to how many “riders” might be on Sproatt due to ebikes versus no ebikes.
I am funny!
You can comment but your not commenting on facts, but on opinion and ego
Again if you ride one in a parking lot, does that mean you know how it would work? Would you not agree that the latest bike you rode got better, felt better and performed better the more time you spent on it in the first 7 days to a month?
Prove to me that they create more damage, when you have never ridden one. How they do it, and prove they do, it is easy, right? Facts Right, Studies? I don't have facts or studies but only real life facts, I dont care about trail damage unless it is vindictive and unnecessary, because in real life all riders slide, skid, and damage the trails, fast riders, slow riders, light riders and heavy riders all do damage, then they are rebuilt, repaired and changed.
I definitely don't know how many riders will increase due to e-bikes, my guess is a lot, what I meant from my statement is that if there are 20,000 mountain bike riders in the province, there is not instantly going to be 20,000 new riders because of e-bikes, because many of the ebike riders will come out of the mountain biking pool that exists, and any new riders that start riding now, not everyone of them will bike an e-bike. So the numbers on Into the Mystic will not double, remember I would say the majority of riders on e-bikes now in the province were already mountain bikers, I dont personally know anyone who just started the sport and bought and e-bike although that will happen for sure.
You are saying that if everyone went from normal bikes to e-bikes, the number of laps done will stay the same.
No, but it won't matter. And you won't notice it. Also I did three laps of the route i mentioned, doing one more lap of somewhere over there and at the end the third lap was not needed. It is kind of like when I sled ski, some days you hit 15,000- 20,000 vert and its only 2 pm, we could do more but mostly we are satisfied and go home. There is a fun limit, I am very lucky I play all day every day and you won't do 10 laps of fromme every day, you might try and see how many you will do one day but you will just ride further in the hour or 2 you have at the end or beginning of the day. Racers ride the most so if we are so concerned then we should stop racers, but you dont notice their extra laps, and an ebike will be different to every level of rider, I like riding up super tech climbs, now I do steep ones on the ebike, many won't want to do that. My buddy who has one prefers climbing the normal routes and hitting hard trails. So each person will be different just like now.
So if we all went e-bike, you are saying more laps will be done.
You are also saying more laps won’t matter because I won’t notice it.
Is that in relation to trail wear between my lap 3 and lap 4?
Or is it in the aggregate from the builders point of view of (Average rides per year) * (Percent of extra laps because we have e-bikes now)?
Remember, the plural of anecdote is not data.