Posted by: Kenny
Posted by: Coiler
Posted by: Silk
Thanks all!
I forgot to mention if you could put in a good word inside the survey for the Independent Builders on Pipeline / Fromme that would be of great help.
As of April 29th the builders of Pipeline can no longer do any maintenance until further notice. Due to recent unsanctioned / unapproved building on Seymour
the DNV wants us to sign a new builders agreement that we will not sign due to the wording and requirements of commercial general liability insurance for each builder
of Pipeline.
See sections 20 - 24
Section 23 is especially alarming and we the builders will not take on all liability of a fully sanctioned trail with
building plans approved by the DNV.
Thanks again!
That's so nuts! 5 million CGL is friggin expensive, and having to name the DNV is also wild. I'd love to hear an insurance broker take on this; CGL for a bike trail builder must be incredibly hard to find.
Yeah, and it's not really the broker though, it's the underwriter/risk assessor people and this is all calculated based on the historical claims for any given industry. These guys are box checkers and I doubt there's a box for "chainsaw in the woods building stuff".
Unless the DNV actually worked with an insurance company to help organize an insurance policy specifically for trail builders, this will be next to impossible to obtain, because it literally doesn't exist.
It's such a disconnect. The DNV advertises travel and recreation on the North Shore, many people live on the north shore for these activities, and it put the region on the map. People don't move there because they like bridge traffic, it's often to get closer to the mountains and their activities.
Activities like riding and climbing, built by volunteers, and then the district just shuts them out. There is the same situation going on with the climbing on the north shore with some areas (like lighthouse park) in a grey area, and there are rumblings of it getting shut down. Promoting activities to bring residents and visitors (and their tax/business), while also actively opposing the fundamental development and maintenance of those activities is something that might work for 5 years, but it reaches a breaking point.
https://www.vancouversnorthshore.com/activity/mountain-biking/
https://www.vancouversnorthshore.com/activity/rock-climbing/