We are gaining? paid service that is not self propelled. No thanks, I will skip it.
One day *they* will close all side walks and free walking trails around here, since not good for someone's revenue. In exchange force using robo-taxis. LOL. City owns the land, they could make $.
Posted by: bogdank
We are gaining? paid service that is not self propelled. No thanks, I will skip it.
One day *they* will close all side walks and free walking trails around here, since not good for someone's revenue. In exchange force using robo-taxis. LOL. City owns the land, they could make $.
Well if you go by Trailforks there are no actual mountain bike trails up there. Lots of run/hike trails. And the gravel road which is now closed above all official trails. There may or may not be unofficial trails, but those don’t get much traffic. If they exist. And an official bike park will be looked forward to by many riders. I know when the Whistler Bike Park opens, trail traffic goes down a fair bit here in Whistler. So yeah, it’s a gain.
Hopefully they let gravel bikes up in the future, it's a great climb on those. And I doubt anyone will poach their MTB trails on a gravel bike!
Anyone know if the Skyride Tram is going to be removed once the gondola is going?
https://www.grousemountain.com/bike-park
"will allow for quicker, more frequent laps by eliminating the need for climbing or shuttling."
I understand that many here are focusing on downhill rides and might not understand the others focus primarily on the climbing part. I'm 55 yo and for my health the uphill is the most important. For older riders we need to be careful downhill to avoid injuries, they are not healing well once older. We don't want to be pushed aside to make elevation gains on asphalt next to cars. We want to ride in nature, another important healing aspect.
Sucks that this road is closed (for now - I still don't see them keeping a full time gatekeeper on staff). Until then, go get your gravel loops on the back side FSR to the reservoir in LSCR. IMHO, it's a lot nicer of a gravel spin than up that shitty road to grouse.
Posted by: Couch_Surfer
Sucks that this road is closed (for now - I still don't see them keeping a full time gatekeeper on staff). Until then, go get your gravel loops on the back side FSR to the reservoir in LSCR. IMHO, it's a lot nicer of a gravel spin than up that shitty road to grouse.
The gatekeeper could not be always there but it sucks to feel unwelcome on the top, constantly being harassed by the stuff.
RE LSCR: I need sustained ~1000+m vertical up, it does not seem that it would do the trick.
Yes, there is an option: Cypress BLT. It is pretty good for the uphill but to get there one must pass several No Trespassing signs/gate. Also it is muddy most of the time and snow lingering on 800m for a long time. It is also overgrown. 3 years ago I spent hours there to cut the alder, but it keeps growing back.
Posted by: bogdank
https://www.grousemountain.com/bike-park
"will allow for quicker, more frequent laps by eliminating the need for climbing or shuttling."
I understand that many here are focusing on downhill rides and might not understand the others focus primarily on the climbing part. I'm 55 yo and for my health the uphill is the most important. For older riders we need to be careful downhill to avoid injuries, they are not healing well once older. We don't want to be pushed aside to make elevation gains on asphalt next to cars. We want to ride in nature, another important healing aspect.
I hear you breathing old man. I’m going to be 67 next month. I’ve ridden up to the top numerous times. Never was a favourite for me. But I totally understand where you’re coming from.
Posted by: bogdank
RE LSCR: I need sustained ~1000+m vertical up, it does not seem that it would do the trick.
It's ~500M if you start below cap college at Seymour Parkway. Bunch of ledgey climbs at 5-8%.
But yeah, you're gonna find a single sustained 1000M climb on gravel. if I was looking for that much vert, I'd rather hit Cypress or Seymour on a road bike than gravel up grouse on any type of regular basis. To each his own.
I have done a few rides up the Grouse Nest for beer and fries when the ski hill was open, but only because the only snow was from snow making and the road up was basically clear
Other times we used to ride up and cross The Cut to get to Jet Boy/Village Chair Lift Line (but that trail has been wrecked by the new construction). One time on a May long weekend we thought that skiing had shut down for the season and were surprised to see the lift running and thought that that was just for maintenance. But then saw skiers and had to race to get to the west side of the lift before the ski patrol caught us. Patrol did catch us, but we were on the west side of the lift by that point and explained we were not going to the top and only to the trail which happened to be the quickest most direct route off the runs. Although, my friend who had just had many surgeries to reattach his foot, post-holed into the snow lower down on the east side and had the snow abrade the side of his ankle, and he left bloody fit prints across the mountain (older people don't get wiser, they just get tougher).
I think those of us the regularly ride for trail might underestimate the number of people just riding up/down the road.
After climbing No Quarter early this morning I passed two guys coming down the road above the 6th.
On my way back up the road for lap two I saw another 5 ( three of these gravel bikes) coming down.
Sucks that after all these years it's cut off, but it is private property.
Go try and ride up from the top lot on Seymour to the top of the lifts, Parks is going to turn you back. Good luck also riding to the top of the lifts on Cypress via their summer maintenance roads.
Plenty of ways to get 1000m of vert in a ride between what is open on Fromme and quite streets around the Shore without fighting cars up Seymour or Cypress.
Cypress gravel road climbs up Eagle Lake Access Rd to the ski hill or BLT to Hollyburn will add dozens of km, just getting to the start of your climb. Get on it while you still can! Both on google maps, west side of the road.
Posted by: andy-eunson
Anyone know if the Skyride Tram is going to be removed once the gondola is going?
Only the old original one. The big tram will be used for freight now I think.
It's their property. They can do whatever they want my friend. You're going to have to get over it unfortunately. And I can guarantee the NSMBA has no power or desire to negotiate with a multi-billion dollar corporation for a few gravel bikers. Don't take it personally, it's just business.
Posted by: abuxton
It's their property. They can do whatever they want my friend. You're going to have to get over it unfortunately. And I can guarantee the NSMBA has no power or desire to negotiate with a multi-billion dollar corporation for a few gravel bikers. Don't take it personally, it's just business.
To be fair though, it's also business for a bike park - there stands a lot of potential for this to be a major net positive for the MTB community as a whole. It's not like access is being lost for an Amazon fulfillment center or auto mall.
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