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all around touring bindings?

Oct. 14, 2016, 3:37 p.m.
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Many years and miles on freeride pro and loved them but it's time for new ones. I used them for touring and resort (50-50) I ride only one pair of skis (I know… space is limited, two kids in racing and they have lots of skis, cant keep up…) I like the kingpins as they seem to be what I'm looking for but not stuck on them. Anyone with experience on different setups? Advice appreciated.

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Oct. 14, 2016, 5:05 p.m.
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Do you really want a pin binding for 50-50 touring-resort?

the pins fell out of the very first kingpins but since they fixed that problem the Kingpins have worked well, my buddy is a big guy and he had no problem last season

other than pin (or tech) bindings you got guardians, F10 or F12, Baron or Duke

Oct. 14, 2016, 8:07 p.m.
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I dont want something to heavy and like the idea of a better touring set up. Never liked tech bindings but now they seem way more durable. If it wasn't for the kids I'd rarely be in bounds and would get a light set up. Unfortunately I know I can't get away with true touring gear so looking and need something that can do both. I'm 160 pounds and fairly agresive skier. And truth be told I do find the kingpins to be pimp looking.

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Oct. 14, 2016, 8:41 p.m.
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yeah I ski tech inbounds up here quite a bit because the tech bindings happen to be on the lotus 120's I wana use skis BUT conditions are pretty soft/not skied out most of the time and if they aren't soft I got lots of other skis

I didn't use my alpine boots much cuz of this^^ SO for this seasons I found a used set of lotus 120's with Barons for cheap that will take alpine or AT and tour but they are fucking heavy

Go light and less releasability/less safety/mo money OR go heavy with better releasability

I can't think of a way to get around the compromise

yeah the kingpins are purdy

Oct. 15, 2016, 4:02 p.m.
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King Pings are good great, but I don't like them for aggressive inbounds skiing. If I had just one set, I would go Marker Tour F12 on whatever ski of your choice. Tech boot and DIN sole compatible and light.

Oct. 15, 2016, 5:09 p.m.
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I want a bike for 50-50 whistler bike park/long alpine epics, any suggestions?

Oct. 15, 2016, 5:43 p.m.
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I want a bike for 50-50 whistler bike park/long alpine epics, any suggestions?

Nomad. I used my old one for the park all the time and even did the TOM with it. Not the best but it work just fine for me.

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Oct. 16, 2016, 7:41 a.m.
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Ok how about a biggish 4wd truck thats powerful, economical, reliable, and cheap?

WTB Frequency i23 rim, 650b NEW - $40

Oct. 17, 2016, 1:35 p.m.
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If you want to ski hard Whistler in bounds, run groomers when your kids are racing etc. I would go for the Salomon Guardian. Heavy and not fun for touring but gets the job done for slackcountry days. The newer models will take a DIN alpine boot and touring boot (sliding AFD). No real sacrifice in hard snow other than stack height.

If you are willing to sacrifice a bit of hard snow/inbounds then get Kingpins as they are superior for touring. My buddy has a pair of skis with both bindings and says the Guardians are significantly better inbounds but that the Kingpin get the job done and are a big improvement from Dynafit Radicals.

Oct. 17, 2016, 1:51 p.m.
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I'm going with these:
http://www.tyrolia.com/en/technology/innovations/aaambition.html

Super similar to the freerides.

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Oct. 17, 2016, 2:10 p.m.
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I had pretty good luck with baron's for double duty, won't break the bank, pretty solid for inbounds charging, not light but will definitely get you to the top. I picked up a pair of skis with the CAST/STH13 (http://casttouring.com/) set up and swapped out the bindings/plates with the barons, now I get solid alpine bindings for ripping around and dynafit toes for the ups. it's not for everyone, for sure, but it's working for me, I generally ski a lot of inbounds mornings with slack country afternoons, so want something that can take more of an inbounds beating than tech can typically handle, at least for my goon 'style'.

Oct. 17, 2016, 2:42 p.m.
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If you want to ski hard Whistler in bounds, run groomers when your kids are racing etc. I would go for the Salomon Guardian. Heavy and not fun for touring but gets the job done for slackcountry days. The newer models will take a DIN alpine boot and touring boot (sliding AFD). No real sacrifice in hard snow other than stack height.

If you are willing to sacrifice a bit of hard snow/inbounds then get Kingpins as they are superior for touring. My buddy has a pair of skis with both bindings and says the Guardians are significantly better inbounds but that the Kingpin get the job done and are a big improvement from Dynafit Radicals.

I was also going to post about the guardians, that what I use for a 90% inbounds 10% touring set up, been good, I only am hating it on long tours a couple times a winter, not enough to justify a dedicated tech set up for me.

Oct. 17, 2016, 3:20 p.m.
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that's pretty much what I have now with my freeride and they have served me well. I was just wondering if the new techs like the kingpins are able to do the same. I'm not a groomer kind of guy, even inbound I avoid them if possible. When my kids are racing I volunteer anyway and don't ski much those days. I guess the question should of been, are the techs better now for inbound skiing or forget it they suck and you'll hate them.

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Oct. 17, 2016, 3:35 p.m.
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I had pretty good luck with baron's for double duty, won't break the bank, pretty solid for inbounds charging, not light but will definitely get you to the top. I picked up a pair of skis with the CAST/STH13 (http://casttouring.com/) set up and swapped out the bindings/plates with the barons, now I get solid alpine bindings for ripping around and dynafit toes for the ups. it's not for everyone, for sure, but it's working for me, I generally ski a lot of inbounds mornings with slack country afternoons, so want something that can take more of an inbounds beating than tech can typically handle, at least for my goon 'style'.

I like that.

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Oct. 17, 2016, 4:05 p.m.
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I know people who use king pins for what you're saying and are happy. I haven't tried them. Dynafit beast is pretty comparable too.

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