Why Do Mountain Bike Films Do So Bad?

New shit has come to light.

that's fucking interesting, man, that's fucking interesting

I like this idea. Travel with the teams and pit them against one another. Conflict = drama = entertainment!

And, I know that people will say that what a rider does pre-race is all confidential, but it would be great to know what racers are doing in the days before a race. How many runs? Walks? What are they studying? What are they talking about? How are they preparing for the race, or for sections of the course? Let's get in the minds of the riders!

exactly.
get more personal with the racers(riders) and make it look like a reality tv show, but without super lame drama.

i like ones with hot girls

A video like stripped, with more slopestyle and steet parts to it, would do great. Although i think its dumb, the majority of kids nowadays just want to see big tricks and gnarly crashes. Plus anyone who has ever had an experience with hallucinagens can tell you that if you smoke a blunt and throw in stripped, you'll TRIP OUT!

… anyone who has ever had an experience with hallucinagens can tell you that if you smoke a blunt and throw in stripped, you'll TRIP OUT!

AWESOME!

Plus anyone who has ever had an experience with hallucinagens can tell you that if you smoke a blunt and throw in stripped, you'll TRIP OUT!

YA MAN I GET THE CRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAZIEST HALLUCINATIONS WHEN I SMOKE MARAJUANA AND WATCH MOUNTAINBIKE MOVIES. ITS MY ALL TIME FAVOURITE!! wooo

New shit has come to light.

that's fucking interesting, man, that's fucking interesting

I like this idea. Travel with the teams and pit them against one another. Conflict = drama = entertainment!

I dont think he meant team versues team death match style,l ol. I think he was meaning like skate videos, how the major teams put out a video with all their skaters in it pro and AM, and showcase and sell their brand to people. One of my favorite videos is Girl: Yeah Right!, maybe because Owen Wilson makes a Cameo in it who knows, what I do know is that I dont even skate and I have that video

Maybe mtn bike film makers should look at snow porn flicks like DC Mtn Lab, Afterlame, 91 Words for Snow, where the mood/tone of the movie is more fun and tells a story.

Mtn bike vids are filled with too much food court gangster/tough guy image, and have no flow. They all follow the same style, rider intro banger clip segment filler footy rider intro so on [HTML_REMOVED] so on. One hit wonders where only a 5 second clip is shown of the hit get pretty old fast, espically when almost half the riders half that hit in their video part. Also not every single movie released that year needs crankworks footage. And have riders only film with one company, not be featured in 4 different productions.

Maybe throw in some sessions on hits, with a little rider design/construction convo clips, and how everyone is feeding off each other who is riding, and the general stokage.

Ripping down trails having a blast with your buddies is what riding is about, not backflipping 20x30 one hit wonder step downs in the middle of nowhere with no one around. So maybe show some real biking at a level higher than what we all ride at.

Basically make a video that people want to watch, and then want to go ride their bikes after watching and it will sell

YA MAN I GET THE CRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAZIEST HALLUCINATIONS WHEN I SMOKE MARAJUANA AND WATCH MOUNTAINBIKE MOVIES. ITS MY ALL TIME FAVOURITE!! wooo

Ever watched stripped? its trippy when you're sober

I dont think he meant team versues team death match style,l ol. I think he was meaning like skate videos, how the major teams put out a video with all their skaters in it pro and AM, and showcase and sell their brand to people. One of my favorite videos is Girl: Yeah Right!, maybe because Owen Wilson makes a Cameo in it who knows, what I do know is that I dont even skate and I have that video

Maybe mtn bike film makers should look at snow porn flicks like DC Mtn Lab, Afterlame, 91 Words for Snow, where the mood/tone of the movie is more fun and tells a story.

Mtn bike vids are filled with too much food court gangster/tough guy image, and have no flow. They all follow the same style, rider intro banger clip segment filler footy rider intro so on [HTML_REMOVED] so on. One hit wonders where only a 5 second clip is shown of the hit get pretty old fast, espically when almost half the riders half that hit in their video part. Also not every single movie released that year needs crankworks footage. And have riders only film with one company, not be featured in 4 different productions.

Maybe throw in some sessions on hits, with a little rider design/construction convo clips, and how everyone is feeding off each other who is riding, and the general stokage.

Ripping down trails having a blast with your buddies is what riding is about, not backflipping 20x30 one hit wonder step downs in the middle of nowhere with no one around. So maybe show some real biking at a level higher than what we all ride at.

Basically make a video that people want to watch, and then want to go ride their bikes after watching and it will sell

kind of like a lot of racing videos. downhill racers riding trails at an amazing pace and ripping corners to shreds. if you have the riders talking about what they are riding and their opinions, it is more interesting then only riding. heres an example.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=UIAI_lC6jxc

not everyone will agree with this but its my opinion. and make sure to use lots of fisheye shots cause they are rad.

You want to make a profit? Shoot porn movies. You want to wake up every morning excited for the day? Shoot what you want to showcase. If you try hard enough, I'll bet you can find a way to make money. Not a lot of money, but enough.

Thanks for all the comments.

My goal is to try to get out of the "small circle". I'm not so much looking for major profit. There are many other things I can do with a camera to make money then shoot mountain biking, but I would like to see what can be done with the sport.

I realize that this is not the ideal place to try to get information from, because anyone who spends the time to go onto such websites is obviously heavily involved in the sport: not the biggest audience. I appreciate your thoughts though.

well it depends what you think as bad, NWD sells 25,000 to 35,000 copies and Collective 30-40,000 and CKD sold 12,000 copies which is really good for sucha low bugdet movie compaired to roam and NWD.

exactly.
get more personal with the racers(riders) and make it look like a reality tv show, but without super lame drama.

well Between the Tape is kinda like that… I just wish they gave us more footage on how they train (like weights and nutrition and riding)

Thanks for all the comments.
I realize that this is not the ideal place to try to get information from, because anyone who spends the time to go onto such websites is obviously heavily involved in the sport: not the biggest audience. I appreciate your thoughts though.

ya because I think that NWD 8 does well is because people that are new to the sport love to see exciting and crazy things that amaze them(thats just my opinion)
I'm kinda like that when it comes to other sports like motocross or snowboarding

well it depends what you think as bad, NWD sells 25,000 to 35,000 copies and Collective 30-40,000 and CKD sold 12,000 copies which is really good for sucha low bugdet movie compaired to roam and NWD.

really? wow, those are surprisingly big numbers. i'm impressed.