ugh tough decision.

don't cramp my style, 243

the 17-55 won't pair up with anything better than a 30d. something to consider.

one one more.

The main reason I'm looking at those lenses is mostly because of their price.

The reason I posted was to see what peoples opinions were of the 10-22. I've been hearing very mixed reviews on other sites while people have showed me samples from their 17-40.

Also for the price of the 17-55 I would rather get a 70-200.

I'm also buying a Graduated ND and a 430 ex :D

i still dont see why he isnt buying a bowflex beucase those thigns are sweeeetttt

Because I have a gym membership?

Because I have a gym membership?

better post up picz of the pythons as proof plz.

go for the L lens, you will be thankful in the future, but F4? thats not very wide but the 2.8 its $$$$$$$$$$$ so get the 4

do they even make a 2.8 anymore?

Also I'm ordering my 430ex, just thinking if i should order one of these with it.

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save your money for the 50mm 1.2 L

better post up picz of the pythons as proof plz.

I've only been going for 3 weeks. I'm also on some neo nazi diet plan and doing 30 minutes of cardio. I have a deadline till christmas to be looking good.

do they even make a 2.8 anymore?

They never made a 17-40 2.8 in the first place.

I've only been going for 3 weeks. I'm also on some neo nazi diet plan and doing 30 minutes of cardio. I have a deadline till christmas to be looking good.

you're dreaming

you're dreaming

Why?

I spend at least 2 hours a day at the gym, after work, eatting better, and working hard when I go. It's a possibility. In fact if anyone wants to place a bet on it ill go in on it.

2.8 does not freaking matter

bump up your iso a stop and quit whining.

ok.

Majin, if you really need a lens in the zoom range you are looking, there are only two lenses to consider. the 16-35 2.8L or the 17-55 EF-S USM. that's it.

i've spent a great deal of time shoting with the 20d and the 16-35. it's sick. really really sick. so nice.

i've spent a great deal of time withthe 17-55 EF-S and it's just as sick a lens.

these are all shot with the 17-55
http://bb.nsmb.com/showthread.php?t=83005

and .243… the only reason the girls hair is in focus and her hand is blurred is because i can get down to 2.8. that's the real reason to get a fast lens. you can seperate your subject really well.

do they even make a 2.8 anymore?

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I've got the second one and it isn't bad. The one thing I don't like is that it punctures easily. It is amazingly versatile and the compact shape is great, however I never saw it as much better than a simple plastic diffuser on the flash.

I have also noticed that it darkens things up a bit more. As I have a 3.5 this is bad, definitely has caused problems. Once you get used to it though you compensate.

I haven't used the Gary Fong Strobe thing, but everything I hear is amazing. It is large and a bit unweildy looking, but the results seem to speak for themselves. I would consider it if you plan on doing event photography in mixed and variable lighting.

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