https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wx1JaskdK4
No one is talking about Paul Bas's bad crash at Rampage. Apparently he crushed his T12 [HTML_REMOVED] had to have 9 hours of surgery.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wx1JaskdK4
No one is talking about Paul Bas's bad crash at Rampage. Apparently he crushed his T12 [HTML_REMOVED] had to have 9 hours of surgery.
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Yeah it's not good. I feel like this Rampage will be the last as we know it, big changes coming I bet. Why was Rogatkin allowed to finish his run? No testing for a concussion or injury. It's a circus show with no safety rules in place except for mandatory insurance for the riders. Imo all riders should be required to wear a full face, neck brace and spine protection. I can't even race a bc cup without a full face and long sleeves on and these guys can wear whatever the f they want?
Yeah it's not good. I feel like this Rampage will be the last as we know it, big changes coming I bet. Why was Rogatkin allowed to finish his run? No testing for a concussion or injury. It's a circus show with no safety rules in place except for mandatory insurance for the riders. Imo all riders should be required to wear a full face, neck brace and spine protection. I can't even race a bc cup without a full face and long sleeves on and these guys can wear whatever the f they want?
Couldn't of said it better… its a bit of a freak show that puts all the riders into serious jeopardy. Fucked up I say.
+2 on tmack's comment
there were 3 or 4 crashes that blew my mind this year. it felt like the progression of both the riders and our expectations are moving beyond the capacity of the human body
the fact that they let rogatkin ride out after his crash was unbeleivable. he could easily have sustained a concussion, broken back, etc. but been too jacked up to notice, and made things worse
i realize that the riders are adults making informed decisions blah blah but rampage as it currently exists is an irresponsible event that exploits its participants for corporate gain. i guess that pretty much sums up redbull's event based business model. as much as i enjoy it, i really hope it undergoes some serious changes
edit: on the nsmb front page cam linked to a great editorial on rampage: http://www.vitalmtb.com/features/Opinion-When-Does-Risk-Outweigh-the-Reward-How-Red-Bull-Rampage-Changed-Our-Perspective,932
"Nobody really gives a shit that you don't like the thing that you have no firsthand experience with." Dave
I read the essay, and all I can say is that I am quite shocked, although not really surprised. People who ride at Rampage are like serious mountain climbers. I remember an interview with Reinhold Messner replying to the question as to why he does climb big mountains, because they are there.
Same here, the riders would ride terrain like that even if it were not what it is. The article states the same things.
What really surprised me was that Red Bull has apparently had no inclination to cover insurance for the athletes. Sure they are athletes who are on the margins of sports, as compared to soccer and formula one, but still - they participate in an event hosted by one of the biggest, if not the biggest, energy drink company, and the athletes are up there on their own terms?
This has to change, I think - Red Bull and the bike companies should step up their own game. Riders risk their career, their health and literally their future for presenting an image that can be sold to magazines and the public interestes in it.
Why not let the bike companies, the companies that produce bike clothing etc. fork out the money or an amount to cover insurance for the athletes?
The image of Paul Bas as a professional "freerider" has definitely made a lot of kids buy a bike, I could imagine. Same goes for all the other riders out there. How much does Trek earn from their athletes, what about Scott, Polygon, YT and Kona?
"You don't learn from experience. You learn from reflecting on the experience."
- Kristen Ulmer
Agree with the above comments. People can do what they want but the pros I follow are people like Tippie who are out having fun and doing cool stuff. Asking dudes in their early 20s to risk a life time of health makes me pretty uncomfortable. People will take big risks and they should be free to but attaching a pay cheque to it is scary. The consequences have gotten so high.
vegetarian: an ancient word for "likes to stay home with the ladies…"
I heard Red Bull is sponsoring a Russian Roulette competition next year.
Since now all the wing suit guys are dead and the Mountain bikers are all mangled.
As much as admire the riders for doing the crazy shit they do, the down side is huge.
Plus the prize money is a joke.
People always ask me what's the phenomenon
Yo what's up? Yo what's goin' on- Adam Yauch
Why was Rogatkin allowed to finish his run? No testing for a concussion or injury.
that really surprised me. glad he seemed to be ok, but that's just irresponsible not to pull him off the hill for proper evaluation.
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+2 on tmack's comment
there were 3 or 4 crashes that blew my mind this year. it felt like the progression of both the riders and our expectations are moving beyond the capacity of the human body
the fact that they let rogatkin ride out after his crash was unbeleivable. he could easily have sustained a concussion, broken back, etc. but been too jacked up to notice, and made things worse
i realize that the riders are adults making informed decisions blah blah but rampage as it currently exists is an irresponsible event that exploits its participants for corporate gain. i guess that pretty much sums up redbull's event based business model. as much as i enjoy it, i really hope it undergoes some serious changes
edit: on the nsmb front page cam linked to a great editorial on rampage: http://www.vitalmtb.com/features/Opinion-When-Does-Risk-Outweigh-the-Reward-How-Red-Bull-Rampage-Changed-Our-Perspective,932
Great read. Thanks for the link.
I just gotta ask who the hell drinks Redbull anyway? The stuff tastes like shit… I am sure the Redbull athletes feels like turds standing on the podium holding a can of that blasphemy.
I just gotta ask who the hell drinks Redbull anyway?
i'm amazed they can sell enough of that stuff to do what they do. apparently they've spent over $1.2 billion (!) on their f1 team alone. people are dumb.
i'm amazed they can sell enough of that stuff to do what they do. apparently they've spent over $1.2 billion (!) on their f1 team alone. people are dumb.
They have two F1 teams. Making that much and they can't cover insurance?
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I just gotta ask who the hell drinks Redbull anyway? The stuff tastes like shit… I am sure the Redbull athletes feels like turds standing on the podium holding a can of that blasphemy.
No idea. Pretty sure most energy drink sponsored athletes on the podium or post event interview are drinking out of a branded waterbottle.
Watch AMA Supercross to see almost comical post race energy drink product placement by athletes. Chad Reid post race a few years back had myself laughing.
WSL had some issues recently
I don't blame the athletes as they have a contract to live up to and only so many years to make bank.
They have two F1 teams. Making that much and they don't want to cover insurance?
FYP ;)
Do they still sponsor a MLS team as well?
…but I digress as usual.
Why slag free swag?:rolleyes:
ummm, as your doctor i recommend against riding with a scaphoid fracture.
Just curious…(let's use Canadians as an example). If a Canadian goes down to the USA, does any insurance they take out up here cover this type of event? This isn't a race. If it was a traditional bike race (road, mtb) one could take coverage down, as a CBC member, and additional 'professional athlete' insurance. I was in emerg and overnight twice years ago in Oregon. Never an issue with insurance, I didn't have anything special. But I was part of a race sanctioned by USA Cycling. Fully covered, didn't have to run to the border.
Are dudes going down to this with 'athlete insurance' thinking that they are covered, maybe only to find out that they aren't covered when it's too late?
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