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April 30, 2020, 1:15 p.m.
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Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

All because they blocked Chinese passports? Something Sweden didnt do to my knowledge.

No. Not "all because the blocked Chinese passports". That was only part of a quick and comprehensive response. Here's a list of 124 actions Taiwan took.

https://cdn.jamanetwork.com/ama/content_public/journal/jama/938448/jvp200035supp1_prod.pdf?Expires=2147483647&Signature=TqblGVjLDNbIm~4rscGM6Kak6iN4m-ONWtogkLG9v5u0T8oTnjDAsf0B3Sl~6V9LeiazowKyVJz~dh2TbO0-N8-GUFskmeC2n-DyD4xca4Oa-Miam9C9qRWAsaGmzCRgNqijPm~mg9JxwJz~B~p~jE7bIuFCo2lDcB-tlTBhmYAn~G2YHam62R07XVpPMkTclEPWs2wu8MXXTz0DnGaY3YF7HkvbtBz~9XHa7123ODS0G2ydZy8HTcF5ry7gOAylQHdU5LHWQftqnNRu3T-kBXzAMfvofohuaJyuujaP5rNb7Rm7u1uqwNbmBcmGBm~H47-6RG5cUL-oHFdv7jc1sA__&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIE5G5CRDK6RD3PGA

Some highlights

- NHIA and NIA integrate patients’ past 14-day travel history into NHIA database

- Electronic monitoring of quarantined individuals via government-issued cell phones

- NHIA database expands to cover 14-day travel history for patients from China, Hong Kong, and Macau

- Contacts traced for Diamond Princess cruise ship passengers who disembarked in Taiwan on Jan 31

- Foreigners must see an immigration officer and cannot use e-Gate (quick entry)

- Couple fined NT$300,000 (USD $10,000) for breaking 14-day home quarantine rule

- Travelers entering Taiwan must complete an accurate health declaration form or be fined up to NT$150,000 (USD $5,000)

- Government declared that violators of home isolation regulations will be fined up to NT$300,000 (USD $10,000); violators of home quarantine regulations will be fined up to NT$150,000 (USD $5,000)

- Foreigners on cruise ship MS Westerdam are not allowed to enter or transfer in Taiwan

- Taipei City Government publishes names of two Taiwanese women and one man of unclear nationality who could not be found after instructed to undergo home quarantine

- Expanded community-based surveillance measures

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This one should concern you specifically:

• Government announced the spread of fake news on epidemic can be fined up to NT$3 million (USD $100,000)


 Last edited by: Couch_Surfer on April 30, 2020, 1:16 p.m., edited 2 times in total.
April 30, 2020, 3:33 p.m.
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The Swedish experiment by numbers:

Yesterday

       Cases Deaths

Sweden: 790 124

Norway: 28 3

Finland: 89 5

Totals

       Cases   Deaths

Sweden: 21092 2586

Norway: 7738 210

Finland: 4995 211


 Last edited by: switch on April 30, 2020, 3:34 p.m., edited 2 times in total.
April 30, 2020, 4:31 p.m.
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That link doesnt work^^

Taiwan is well versed at not believing anything that mainland china sez so they were on it right away

Sweden's  per-capita death toll looks really bad

April 30, 2020, 6:42 p.m.
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Sweden records all deaths in care homes and also anyone who dies outside the hospital system that has covid whether it's related to the death or not. So their numbers are larger in comparison to their neighbours.

They believe that death per capita in the long run will be the same as their neighbours due to herd immunity. Time will tell.

April 30, 2020, 10:22 p.m.
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Joined: Nov. 23, 2002

Hear about the shit going down in Michigan? I wonder what would have happened if those protesters were all people of colour? Think authorities would have let things played out the same way?  That right there is a prime example of what systemic racism is.

May 1, 2020, 1:09 a.m.
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Posted by: XXX_er

That link doesnt work^^

Just copy and past the whole shebang of text into your browser's address bar.

May 1, 2020, 1:41 a.m.
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Posted by: Kieran

Sweden records all deaths in care homes and also anyone who dies outside the hospital system that has covid whether it's related to the death or not. So their numbers are larger in comparison to their neighbours.

They believe that death per capita in the long run will be the same as their neighbours due to herd immunity. Time will tell.

A lot of other countries, like Norway, count deaths outside of hospitals.  Besides the lockdown, Sweden has only done 1/3 of the per capita testing that Norway has done.  Norway has identified and isolated cases faster, thereby slowing the spread much more than Sweden has.

May 1, 2020, 8:42 a.m.
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https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

sweden's per capita death rate is 263 per million which is pretty bad, way  worse than the surrounding scandanavian countrys, even worse than the usa

May 1, 2020, 9 a.m.
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Posted by: syncro

Hear about the shit going down in Michigan? I wonder what would have happened if those protesters were all people of colour? Think authorities would have let things played out the same way?  That right there is a prime example of what systemic racism is.

If these assholes were black they would be dead today.

May 2, 2020, 1:01 a.m.
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May 2, 2020, 6:22 a.m.
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Ughhh

May 2, 2020, 10:04 a.m.
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Curious how you parents feel about the schools opening back up. Myself I think it’s going to be too soon. From personal experience raising four kids,I always was a little nervous about getting a cold every September when the little door knob lickers went back to school.

May 2, 2020, 10:18 a.m.
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Comparing to the flu: 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/05/02/theres-more-accurate-way-compare-coronavirus-deaths-flu/

May 2, 2020, 11:39 a.m.
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Posted by: FLATCH

Curious how you parents feel about the schools opening back up. Myself I think it’s going to be too soon. From personal experience raising four kids,I always was a little nervous about getting a cold every September when the little door knob lickers went back to school.

I guess it depends on what "opening back up" means. If it is some kind of staggered, 1/4 of a class goes one day a week, sort of thing, that might be doable. But full classes back to a normal routine... I don't see that happening until September, and possibly not then if a solid testing system isn't in place.


 Last edited by: PaulB on May 2, 2020, 11:42 a.m., edited 3 times in total.
May 2, 2020, 1:33 p.m.
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apparently BC is 3 weeks ahead of the rest of Canada, cases have plateaued and are on the decrease

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/gardam-dr-michael-toronto-humber-river-hospital-bc-plateau-covid-19-crisis-re-open-caution-1.5552850

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