Posted by: syncro
Posted by: ReductiMat
Canada is doing a great job all things considered. Hell, I found myself saying "Fuck Ya Doug Ford, you're right" for the first time (and probably last time) of my life.
(Jason Kenney is still Kenneying, but only at 50%, so that's just fucking super for that little guy)
he's still Kenneying at 100%
- laid off special assistant teachers
- cut rural doctors pay
- spend 1.5 bil on XL pipeline with loan guarantees of another 6 bil
I stand corrected!
Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus
Posted by: chupacabra
I think the easiest explanation is that it wasn't a very bad season for the flu/pneumonia to start with (see graph) and then it dropped at the beginning of the year after Christmas break as it always does (see graph). This could be made more dramatic by the social distancing that is being practiced as that would combat all infectious diseases (see graph after week 9).
I am not sure a national conspiracy is the easiest answer. They are rarely easy. You should think about that when you feel the urge to believe.
There are other causes of pneumonia other than h3 flu right? I recall reading about US Flu numbers from Dec 2019 being (much) higher than average. A quick google provided me these:
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Dec 13.019: At least 1,300 people have died from the flu so far this season, according to a preliminary estimate released Friday by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. There have been at least 2.6 million flu illnesses and 23,000 flu-related hospitalizations, according to the analysis.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/13/health/flu-update-cdc-dec-13-2019/index.html
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Dec 9.2019 Flu Season Is Off to an Earlier-than-Normal Start, Raising Fears of a Severe Year
https://time.com/5746409/early-flu-season-2019-2020/
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Dec 21.2019 The flu is worse this holiday season than it was last year
https://qz.com/1773612/flu-season-is-worse-this-season-than-it-was-last-year/
Well, the graph you posted certainly doesn't show a bad season as far as deaths are concerned through to the end of 2019. Maybe it was a different strain than usual. There are 3 or 4 of them and they affect people differently with some not as severe.
2019-2020 flu season is worse than average in USA.
http://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2020/03/17/flu-update
Posted by: ReductiMat
Posted by: syncro
Posted by: ReductiMat
Canada is doing a great job all things considered. Hell, I found myself saying "Fuck Ya Doug Ford, you're right" for the first time (and probably last time) of my life.
(Jason Kenney is still Kenneying, but only at 50%, so that's just fucking super for that little guy)
he's still Kenneying at 100%
- laid off special assistant teachers
- cut rural doctors pay
- spend 1.5 bil on XL pipeline with loan guarantees of another 6 bil
I stand corrected!
https://thetyee.ca/Analysis/2020/04/07/Jason-Kenney-Adds-To-Coronavirus-Crisis-With-Layoffs/
"While the prime minister and other premiers are holding up their end of the bargain by avoiding layoffs and exhorting employers in the private sector to do the same, Kenney is adding to the COVID-related unemployment carnage with carnage of his own.
For example, with little warning or consultation, Kenney recently announced that 25,000 K-12 education workers will be laid off. He’s also proceeding with an austerity budget that has already led to thousands of layoffs at universities, colleges and municipalities.
But that’s not all. Shockingly, the provincial government is also cutting doctors’ salaries by as much as 30 per cent, even as they gear up to confront COVID-19. Some doctors say they will have no choice but to close their practices.
And the government still plans as many as 6,000 layoffs for nurses, paramedics, lab techs and other frontline health care workers — after the pandemic crisis passes, of course."
Posted by: KenN
Posted by: ReductiMat
Posted by: syncro
Posted by: ReductiMat
Canada is doing a great job all things considered. Hell, I found myself saying "Fuck Ya Doug Ford, you're right" for the first time (and probably last time) of my life.
(Jason Kenney is still Kenneying, but only at 50%, so that's just fucking super for that little guy)
he's still Kenneying at 100%
- laid off special assistant teachers
- cut rural doctors pay
- spend 1.5 bil on XL pipeline with loan guarantees of another 6 bil
I stand corrected!
https://thetyee.ca/Analysis/2020/04/07/Jason-Kenney-Adds-To-Coronavirus-Crisis-With-Layoffs/
"While the prime minister and other premiers are holding up their end of the bargain by avoiding layoffs and exhorting employers in the private sector to do the same, Kenney is adding to the COVID-related unemployment carnage with carnage of his own.
For example, with little warning or consultation, Kenney recently announced that 25,000 K-12 education workers will be laid off. He’s also proceeding with an austerity budget that has already led to thousands of layoffs at universities, colleges and municipalities.
But that’s not all. Shockingly, the provincial government is also cutting doctors’ salaries by as much as 30 per cent, even as they gear up to confront COVID-19. Some doctors say they will have no choice but to close their practices.
And the government still plans as many as 6,000 layoffs for nurses, paramedics, lab techs and other frontline health care workers — after the pandemic crisis passes, of course."
and yet he spends fucking BILLIONS on a pipeline to transport their 5 fucking dollar a barrel oil. fucking mind mindbogglingly stupid
Posted by: chupacabra
Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus
Posted by: chupacabra
I think the easiest explanation is that it wasn't a very bad season for the flu/pneumonia to start with (see graph) and then it dropped at the beginning of the year after Christmas break as it always does (see graph). This could be made more dramatic by the social distancing that is being practiced as that would combat all infectious diseases (see graph after week 9).
I am not sure a national conspiracy is the easiest answer. They are rarely easy. You should think about that when you feel the urge to believe.
There are other causes of pneumonia other than h3 flu right? I recall reading about US Flu numbers from Dec 2019 being (much) higher than average. A quick google provided me these:
.
Dec 13.019: At least 1,300 people have died from the flu so far this season, according to a preliminary estimate released Friday by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. There have been at least 2.6 million flu illnesses and 23,000 flu-related hospitalizations, according to the analysis.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/13/health/flu-update-cdc-dec-13-2019/index.html
.
Dec 9.2019 Flu Season Is Off to an Earlier-than-Normal Start, Raising Fears of a Severe Year
https://time.com/5746409/early-flu-season-2019-2020/
.
Dec 21.2019 The flu is worse this holiday season than it was last year
https://qz.com/1773612/flu-season-is-worse-this-season-than-it-was-last-year/
Well, the graph you posted certainly doesn't show a bad season as far as deaths are concerned through to the end of 2019. Maybe it was a different strain than usual. There are 3 or 4 of them and they affect people differently with some not as severe.
The graph specifically shows deaths, not total cases, and not deaths as a percentage of cases. Let's not conflate the flu strain's virulence with its morbidity, as shogun is trying to do.
There's a Japadog stand waiting for him when teh dust settles.
Never thought I would miss bitching about the traffic.
Global news has their helicopter in the air doing traffic reports. Seriously? Lol
Posted by: KenN
Posted by: ReductiMat
Posted by: syncro
Posted by: ReductiMat
Canada is doing a great job all things considered. Hell, I found myself saying "Fuck Ya Doug Ford, you're right" for the first time (and probably last time) of my life.
(Jason Kenney is still Kenneying, but only at 50%, so that's just fucking super for that little guy)
he's still Kenneying at 100%
- laid off special assistant teachers
- cut rural doctors pay
- spend 1.5 bil on XL pipeline with loan guarantees of another 6 bil
I stand corrected!
https://thetyee.ca/Analysis/2020/04/07/Jason-Kenney-Adds-To-Coronavirus-Crisis-With-Layoffs/
"While the prime minister and other premiers are holding up their end of the bargain by avoiding layoffs and exhorting employers in the private sector to do the same, Kenney is adding to the COVID-related unemployment carnage with carnage of his own.
For example, with little warning or consultation, Kenney recently announced that 25,000 K-12 education workers will be laid off. He’s also proceeding with an austerity budget that has already led to thousands of layoffs at universities, colleges and municipalities.
But that’s not all. Shockingly, the provincial government is also cutting doctors’ salaries by as much as 30 per cent, even as they gear up to confront COVID-19. Some doctors say they will have no choice but to close their practices.
And the government still plans as many as 6,000 layoffs for nurses, paramedics, lab techs and other frontline health care workers — after the pandemic crisis passes, of course."
Take the most highly trained person you can find who has been to like grade 23 and fuck him over, also the minister Tyler Shandro is a fucking idiot contacting doctors on the side and harrassing them at home ... I wonder how many MD's might move to BC ?
Posted by: KenN
Posted by: chupacabra
Well, the graph you posted certainly doesn't show a bad season as far as deaths are concerned through to the end of 2019. Maybe it was a different strain than usual. There are 3 or 4 of them and they affect people differently with some not as severe.
The graph specifically shows deaths, not total cases, and not deaths as a percentage of cases. Let's not conflate the flu strain's virulence with its morbidity, as shogun is trying to do.
True, but it is interesting (if that graph isn't 100% liquified bullshit) that the number of deaths would be that much lower in a bad flu season, but whatever Shogun is trying to prove fails the minute you realize that the numbers were low back into the fall long before anyone had heard of this virus.
Posted by: tungsten
God damn it....
R.I.P.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-country/john-prine-obit-253684/
Sadly this won't be the last legend taken down. RIP
They better have Betty White in a capsule.
Posted by: chupacabra
Well, the graph you posted certainly doesn't show a bad season as far as deaths are concerned through to the end of 2019. Maybe it was a different strain than usual. There are 3 or 4 of them and they affect people differently with some not as severe.
That's because the graph was pneumonia and we're also talking flu.. I think? Easy to mix it up.
I look at Corona/Covid like this:
Influenza, TypeA-H3, side effect: pneumonia
Coronavirus, Sars2, side effect: covid19
untreated bacterial infection, side effect: gangrene
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Which is why I take issue with the media describing this COVID19 outbreak as that - covid is non-tranmissable and is a result of (one of the new) sars2 strain(s). They should just label it sars2; COVID19 sounds like a weapon from Castlevania.
**Posted by: KenN
** Let's not conflate the flu strain's virulence with its morbidity, as shogun is trying to do.
That wasnt my intention. The graph shows that pneumonia is on spring break.
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