Water that burns

Movies such as GasLand are born out of fear and paranoia, not on actual facts. We have been performing fracturing operations on oil [HTML_REMOVED] gas wells since the 1860's.

What people don't seem to get, is that water wells _naturally _ over the course of their lives produce methane. It has nothing to do with hydraulic fracture operations.

They did tests on all those "contaminated" wells in that movie, and found that it wasn't related to operations from the oil [HTML_REMOVED] gas industry.

“Can You Light Your Water on Fire?” Well yes, apparently many can – but sadly for Gasland, for reasons au naturelle. Fox highlights the instance of a flammable faucet in Fort Lupton, Colorado pinning the blame on gas development. The Colorado Oil and Gas Conservation Commission however disagree, maintaining, “Dissolved methane in well water appears to be biogenic [natural occurring] in origin” and they found “no indications of oil and gas related impacts to the water well.”

There is soo much wrong with that documentary, I don't even know where to start. So I'll let you guys read these links instead:

http://www.commonwealthfoundation.org/policyblog/detail/gasland-debunked
http://www.energyindepth.org/2010/06/debunking-gasland/
http://www.bseec.org/content/debunking-gasland
http://dpa.aapg.org/correlator/debunkingQ410.cfm
http://www.scribd.com/doc/33377903/Gasland-Debunked
http://www.energytribune.com/articles.cfm/6609/Gaslands-Fracking-Nonsense

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsQorCUZmuE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsQorCUZmuE

You need to do some research my friend…

Put the rules in place and they will abide by them.

But the Republicans keep telling me that the "market" will ensure that the big companies
are self regulating and everything will be ok if the "big government" gets out of the way.

But the Republicans keep telling me that the "market" will ensure that the big companies
are self regulating and everything will be ok if the "big government" gets out of the way.

I work in the oil patch and I know that's a crock. Our regulations are OK but they could still use some work. Other parts of the world and South of the border they need a lot of work.

You can also drill a water well around here (Edmonton surrounding areas) and have your tap light like that. The gas formations can be quite shallow; in the range of 200'-300'.

But the Republicans keep telling me that the "market" will ensure that the big companies
are self regulating and everything will be ok if the "big government" gets out of the way.

The oilpatch is not self regulating. There are a lot of regulations in place in this industry, in Canada and the US.

Residents living amidst the shale gas boom in northeastern B.C. say the industry is making them sick [HTML_REMOVED]#8212; and their call for government action is being backed by medical health officers.[HTML_REMOVED]#8212; and their call for government action is being backed by medical health officers.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2011/09/28/bc-shale-gas-sick-farmers.html

I work in the oil patch and I know that's a crock. Our regulations are OK but they could still use some work. Other parts of the world and South of the border they need a lot of work.

You can also drill a water well around here (Edmonton surrounding areas) and have your tap light like that. The gas formations can be quite shallow; in the range of 200'-300'.

The oilpatch is not self regulating. There are a lot of regulations in place in this industry, in Canada and the US.

Does working in the oil industry take away your ability to sense sarcasm? I thought my
remark was so over the top I didn't need a ;), but I guess I should have put one in.

Does working in the oil industry take away your ability to sense sarcasm? I thought my
remark was so over the top I didn't need a ;), but I guess I should have put one in.

A comment like that on this board really wouldn't surprise me, so I guess that's why I took it seriously.

Oil companies like most large corporations abide by the rules in place. In the North Sea all formation cuttings are back loaded to shore and disposed of as mandated by the Norwegian gov't. In Australia they dump them overboard into the Indian Ocean because its not in the regulations to send them to shore. Put the rules in place and they will abide by them.

Here in Alberta, and I believe this holds true in BC as well, waste water from a frac job that does not go through the stack during test is either:

a) Retained to save costs, and re-used on the next frac that the producer has

or

b) Turned over to a fluid disposal company who will flash off the clean water, and return the contaminated liquids to a class 1b well from the same formation as the produced water came from.

So pretty and relaxing. Ain't nature sweet?

Kn.

LOL @ whoever posted a picture of a drilling rig claiming that it was a fracturing operation…

This is a typical small sized frac fluid farm:

They get larger as you go… in Canada, if you have an open pit for contaminated water storage, it MUST be surrounded by a fence considered sufficient to keep wildlife out as well as have measures to prevent birdts from landing in it.

Way to go posting a picture from our idiot cousins down south though, they're at least 30 years behind us in safety and environmental considerations. Bloody red headed step sister, they are…

Movies such as GasLand are born out of fear and paranoia, not on actual facts.

Yeah, right.

1,000 cases of water contamination reported

The EPA's findings about fracking's contamination of ground water have sent a shockwave through a gas industry in denial

Oil companies like most large corporations abide by the rules in place.

:lol::lol:

Yeah, right.

1,000 cases of water contamination reported

The EPA's findings about fracking's contamination of ground water have sent a shockwave through a gas industry in denial

From the second article:

Anyone who lives in a gas drilling area can tell you: fracking contaminates groundwater.

There are rigs on a regular basis that drill within my town's limits, that drill through our water table, and are then followed by a completion job that almost always employs hydrofracturing or gasfracturing to expand the target formation. This has been happening for well over 20 years here (well… not GasFrac's stuff. That's new technology) and I can drink tapwater.

Damned hippies.