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Oct. 19, 2013, 11:35 a.m.
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Doesn't really matter about patrolling a pipeline when there's a lot of objection to where it is being built.

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Oct. 19, 2013, 11:54 a.m.
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Funny, I breifly searched Google and couldn't find what their objections are over this project. I find that rather curious.

The way I understand it, this is about 3 things:

Aboriginal consultation, money and enviromenental impact. They're all (briefly) covered in this article:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/n-b-fracking-protests-and-the-fight-for-aboriginal-rights-1.2126515

Nov. 7, 2013, 10:42 p.m.
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The tide is turning……….

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/fracking-on-hold-near-gros-morne-across-n-l-1.2355701


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NDulq715jA
http://desmogblog.com/2013/11/06/steve-lipsky-s-flaming-tapwater-no-joke

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Nov. 10, 2013, 10:42 a.m.
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Tying up this project is a ridiculous exercise in futility. The company has every legal right to be there, as it is on crown land, and since the general practice up until now in other jurisdictions AND in NB has demonstrated the right of the province to determine who has access to crown land and the resources found below. Those licenses have been granted, and the bands have no right to prevent the oil and gas companies from accessing their equipment.

The concerns they claim to have can be resolved peacefully in court, through discussions, and appropriate negotiations - violence isn't the answer.

Since the companies in question have been prevented access to equipment that they own, I do believe the police were right to intervene and allow that access. The violent nature of the clash simply lends credibility to the government and oil companies position.

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Nov. 11, 2013, 10:18 a.m.
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Here's a short, well written article on the subject:

http://m.dailyinterlake.com/opinion/article_9b1b6c6a-48f9-11e3-b50f-0019bb2963f4.html?mode=jqm

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Nov. 11, 2013, 1:24 p.m.
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Don't blame the message - blame the messenger. :lol:

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Dec. 3, 2013, 11:34 a.m.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoYe_LUyl0k

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Feb. 10, 2014, 9:45 p.m.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAGixCOj8bg

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May 12, 2014, 11:03 p.m.
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"Natural gas contains many of the vital raw materials that are used to manufacture plastics and chemicals. The new tide of cheap natural gas has launched the petrochemical industry on the biggest building spree it has seen in many years, with many experts predicting enormous increases in production of those plastics most often used in consumer packaging and single-use products."

http://www.onearth.org/articles/2014/04/why-the-plastics-industry-is-raucously-celebrating-the-fracking-boom

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June 5, 2014, 1:15 p.m.
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http://thetyee.ca/News/2014/06/05/Canada-Leaky-Energy-Wells/

A new University of Waterloo report warns that natural gas seeping from 500,000 wellbores represent "a threat to environment and public safety" due to groundwater contamination, greenhouse gas emissions and explosion risks wherever methane collects in unvented buildings and spaces.

The 69-page report on wellbore leakage cowritten by three expert UofW professors outlines a longstanding and largely invisible engineering problem for Canada's oil and gas industry.

etc.

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June 8, 2014, 10:18 p.m.
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http://www.khou.com/news/texas-news/Scientists-Tests-prove-fracking-to-blame-for-flaming-Texas-wells-262115241.html

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June 8, 2014, 10:53 p.m.
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So let me see if I'm getting this right…texans are pissed about underground methane in their wells…..how to they feel about the contaminants entering their aquifers from all of their massive feedlots (including methane)?

June 8, 2014, 11:19 p.m.
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With all that methane on their land, they should trap it and sell it. Or the could burn it to produce energy to run their homes.

It is easy to dodge our responsibilities, but we cannot dodge the consequences of dodging our responsibilities.
- Josiah Stamp

Every time I see an adult on a bicycle, I no longer despair for the future of the human race.
- H.G. Wells

June 9, 2014, 5:08 a.m.
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With all that methane on their land, they should trap it and sell it. Or the could burn it to produce energy to run their homes.

Crazy talk

June 9, 2014, 6:58 a.m.
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So let me see if I'm getting this right…texans are pissed about underground methane in their wells…..how to they feel about the contaminants entering their aquifers from all of their massive feedlots (including methane)?

They should be collecting it to fertilize those massive cornfields they have too but I think they use chemical fertilizers for that.

www.natooke.com

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