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Trump has been a Russian asset since the 80s - will it matter to the traitor ridden GOP?

Feb. 20, 2021, 1:22 p.m.
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Feb. 20, 2021, 1:24 p.m.
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► Trump was first exploited by the Russians in 1984 when the Russian Mafia began to use Trump real estate to launder money. In 1984, David Bogatin — a convicted Russian mobster and close ally of Semion Mogilevich, a major Russian mob boss — met with Trump in Trump Tower right after it opened. Bogatin bought five condos from Trump at that meeting. Those condos were later seized by the government, which claimed they were used to launder money for the Russian mob. (NY Times, Apr 30, 1992)

► In 1987, the Soviet ambassador to the United Nations, Yuri Dubinin, arranged for Trump and Ivana to enjoy an all-expense-paid trip to Moscow to consider business prospects. This is when Trump was first compromised. Seven weeks after his trip, Trump ran full-page ads in the Boston Globe, the NYT and WaPO calling for the dismantling of the postwar Western foreign policy alliance.

► Felix Sater is a Russian-born former mobster, and former managing director of NY real estate conglomerate Bayrock Group LLC located on the 24th floor of Trump Tower. He pleaded guilty in the 1990s to a huge stock-fraud scheme involving the Russian mafia. He became a govt cooperator for the FBI and other agencies. He grew up with Michael Cohen--Trump's former "fixer" attorney. Cohen's family owned El Caribe, which was a mob hangout for the Russian Mafia in Brooklyn. Cohen had ties to Ukrainian oligarchs through his in-laws and his brother's in-laws. Felix Sater's father had ties to the Russian mob. This goes back more than 30 years.

► Trump was $4 billion in debt after his Atlantic City casinos went bankrupt. No U.S. bank would touch him. Then foreign money began flowing in through Bayrock (mentioned above). Bayrock was run by two investors: Tevfik Arif, a Kazakhstan-born former Soviet official who drew on bottomless sources of money from the former Soviet republic; and Felix Sater. Bayrock partnered with Trump in 2005 and poured money into the Trump organization under the legal guise of licensing his name and property management.

► According to Celebrity Apprentice talent handler, Noel Casler, Felix Sater was a frequent guest at the CA afterparties, especially the ones held at Trump Soho in 2010. He made introductions between Ivanka and the wealthy Russians that made up most of the guest list.

► In July 2008, the height of the housing bust, Trump sold a Palm Beach mansion for $95 million to Dmitry Rybolovlev, a Russian oligarch. Trump had purchased it four years earlier for $41.35 million. Again, this was the height of the recession when all other property had plummeted in value.

► Semion Mogilevich was the brains behind the Russian Mafia. Mogilevich operatives have been using Trump real estate for decades to launder money. Russian Mafia has been part of his fortune for years. Many of them owned condos in Trump Towers and other properties. They were running operations out of Trump's crown jewel.

► From Craig Unger's AMA: "Early on, a source told me that all this was tied to Semion Mogilevich, the powerful Russian mobster. I had never even heard of him, but I immediately went to a database that listed the owners of all properties in NY state and looked up all the Trump properties. Every time I found a Russian sounding name, I would Google, and add Mogilevich. When you do investigative reporting, you anticipate drilling a number of dry holes, but almost everyone I googled turned out to be a Russian mobster. Again and again. If you know New York you don't expect Trump Tower to be a high crime neighborhood, but there were far too many Russian mobsters in Trump properties for it to be a coincidence."

► So many Russians bought Trump apartments at his developments in Florida that the area became known as Little Moscow. The developers of two of his hotels were Russians with significant links to the Russian mob. The late leader of that mob in the United States, Vyacheslav Kirillovich Ivankov, was living at Trump Tower.

► According to a Bloomberg investigation (3/16/2017) into Trump World Tower, “a third of units sold on floors 76 through 83 by 2004 involved people or limited liability companies connected to Russia and neighboring states.”

► In 2013, Federal agents busted an “ultraexclusive, high-stakes, illegal poker ring” run by Russian gangsters out of Trump Tower. They operated card games, illegal gambling websites, and a global sports book and laundered more than $100 million. A condo directly below one owned by Trump reportedly served as HQ for a “sophisticated money-laundering scheme” connected to Semion Mogilevich.

► The Russia Mafia is part and parcel of Russian intelligence. Russia is a mafia state. that is not a metaphor. Putin is head of the Mafia. They have been operating out of the home of the president of the United States for years.

► Rudy Giuliani famously prosecuted the Italian mob while he was a federal prosecutor, yet the Russian mob was allowed to thrive. Now he's deeply entwined in the business of Trump and Russian oligarchs. Giuiani appointed Semyon Kislin to the NYC Economic Development Council in 1990, and the FBI described Kislin as having ties tot he Russian mob. Of course, it made good political sense for Giuliani to get headlines for smashing the Italian mob.

► A lot of Republicans in Washington are implicated. Boatloads of Russian money went to the GOP--often in legal ways. The NRA got as much as $70M from Russia, then funneled it to the GOP. The Republican Senatorial Campaign Committee lead by McConnell got millions from Leonard Blavatnik. In the 90s, the Russians began sending money to top GOP leaders, like Speaker of the House Tom Delay. Unger's book alleges that most of the GOP leadership has been compromised by RU money.

► At the Cityscape USA’s Bridging US and the Emerging Real Estate Markets Conference held in Manhattan, Sept 9-11, 2008, Trump Jr. was frank about the tide of Russian money supporting the family business, saying "...And in terms of high-end product influx into the US, Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets."

► Eric Trump told golf reporter James Dodson in 2014 that the Trump Organization was able to expand during the financial crisis because “We don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia.”

► Russian oligarchs co-signed Trump's Deutsche Bank loans

TL;DR: Trump was over a billion in debt and the Russians bailed him out.

As pres, Trump gleefully took cues from Putin

► At the end of 2018, Putin and his allies made a strong push for a resolution that would justify their country’s 1979 invasion of Afghanistan and reverse an 1989 vote backed by Mikhail Gorbachev that condemned it. There is no one on this side of the Atlantic who thinks the USSR was justified in invading Afghanistan. Out of nowhere, on January 2nd, Trump came out strongly supporting Russia's invasion of Afghanistan.

► Trump went against American intelligence on North Korean missiles. He told the FBI he didn't believe their intelligence because Putin told him otherwise. "I don't care, I believe Putin"

► Trump met in secret with Putin the G20 summit in Nov 2018 without note takers. 19 days later he announced a withdrawal from Syria. Trump conducted FIVE completely private meetings and conferences with Putin, and has gone to great lengths to prevent literally anyone, even people in his administration, from learning what was discussed.

► Withdrew troops from Syria on Putin's birthday, and gave the US military base to the Russians

► Refused to enforce sanctions legally codified into law - and in some cases reversed standing sanctions on Russian companies.

► He has denounced his own intelligence agencies in a press conference with Putin on election meddling - and publicly endorsed Putin's version of events.

► Trump pulled out of the INF treaty with no explanation, which allows Putin to create long-range hypersonic missiles that threaten Europe and the US with impunity. The US already has the weapons that the INF bans so this offers us literally nothing

► Demanded Russia get invited back into G7

► Pushed the CIA to give American intelligence to the Kremlin

► Withdrew from the Open Skies treaty which allows America to watch Russia's nuclear arsenal

► Received intelligence in 2019 that Russia was paying bounties for dead American soldiers and hasn't done anything about it by the time of this writing.

► Announced troop withdrawal from Germany (America's missile defense from Russia and forward operating base against Russian aggression)

► Trump continues to threaten to pull out of NATO, which is so catastrophically stupid, that it would be like the only guy in a prison yard with a shotgun just throwing it over the fence for absolutely no reason

► Trump knew since Mar 2020 that Russia paid bounties to kill American troops. On July 29, Trump defended Russia arming the Taliban against the US saying the US once did the same thing

Feb. 20, 2021, 1:30 p.m.
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fake news

Feb. 20, 2021, 5:14 p.m.
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He's gone.  Enough threads already.

Feb. 20, 2021, 5:15 p.m.
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Posted by: gearwhore

Trump

Is that the American Kompromat book?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/piling-up-incriminating-information-about-trumps-russian-connections/2021/01/28/a0b53b80-5029-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html%3foutputType=amp

Evidence's been all too obvious I suppose. I like the part where his Russian groomer is mind blown when Trump goes home and starts taking out newspaper ads parroting the lines they fed him. 🤣

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/19/trump-first-moscow-trip-215842/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/russia-cultivating-trump-asset-40-years-says-ex-kgb-spy-2021-1%3famp


 Last edited by: Hepcat on Feb. 20, 2021, 5:17 p.m., edited 1 time in total.
Feb. 20, 2021, 6:42 p.m.
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When the WP story hit I was hoping for SOME kind of condemnation from at least a few Republicans. 

Nothing. There’s no room for admitting this was a mistake within the modern GQP.

Feb. 21, 2021, 10:53 a.m.
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Feb. 21, 2021, 11:21 a.m.
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Posted by: syncro

fake news

No shit. I hardly know where to start. Here's a couple.

They have been operating out of the home of the president of the United States for years.

lol...as wild eyed and batshit crazy an assertation as Q-Anon types like to spew. One should be more concerned about the filthy amerikan capitalists who had access to power through the malignant orange fascist's WH. The most dangerous mobsters on earth.

https://thegrayzone.com/2021/02/20/reuters-bbc-uk-foreign-office-russian-media/

There is no one on this side of the Atlantic who thinks the USSR was justified in invading Afghanistan.

Of course not, they're all inculcates of a coroprate media, owned by the friendly people who make the bombs who've trained them to think war is peace. The reality of that tragedy is rather the fault of the rubes "on this side of the Atlantic".

http://www.michaelparenti.org/afghanistan_story_untold.html

Received intelligence in 2019 that Russia was paying bounties for dead American soldiers and hasn't done anything about it by the time of this writing.

Hypocrites. Debunked by amerika's own intelligence community.

https://consortiumnews.com/2020/07/05/bountygate-scapegoating-systemic-military-failure-in-afghanistan/

https://www.wsj.com/articles/nsa-differed-from-cia-others-on-russia-bounty-intelligence-11593534220

https://www.usdakotawar.org/history/aftermath/bounties

https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/07/03/roaming-charges-mutiny-of-the-bounties/

Announced troop withdrawal from Germany (America's missile defense from Russia and forward operating base against Russian aggression)

Without the context of some thirty years of amerikan/NATO aggression since the fall of the Berlin Wall.

Withdrew from the Open Skies treaty which allows America to watch Russia's nuclear arsenal

Works both ways. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/open-skies-russia-canada-united-states-1.5645987


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Feb. 21, 2021, 11:44 a.m.
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Posted by: tungsten

Received intelligence in 2019 that Russia was paying bounties for dead American soldiers and hasn't done anything about it by the time of this writing.

Debunked by amerika's own intelligence community.

https://consortiumnews.com/2020/07/05/bountygate-scapegoating-systemic-military-failure-in-afghanistan/

Key phrase there is "at the time of this writing". It's a published book, so no live updates.

At the time of the writing interrogated Taliban captives said it was real, the implicated Russian officials were traveling to the places named, and CIA director Gina Haskel called the current evidence compelling and placed it in the former president's daily briefing...which he pretended he didn't see.

Seems a solidly researched book by a reputable investigative journalist.

Feb. 21, 2021, 12:43 p.m.
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Posted by: tungsten

No shit. I hardly know where to start. Here's a couple...

Umm,  I was being sarcastic.

Feb. 21, 2021, 6:45 p.m.
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No collusion🤔 😂🤣

Feb. 21, 2021, 7:42 p.m.
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Posted by: syncro

Posted by: tungsten

No shit. I hardly know where to start. Here's a couple...

Umm, I was being sarcastic.

https://youtu.be/zfZTzcDFZ98

Feb. 22, 2021, 1:14 p.m.
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Posted by: tungsten

Posted by: syncro

There is no one on this side of the Atlantic who thinks the USSR was justified in invading Afghanistan.

Of course not, they're all inculcates of a coroprate media, owned by the friendly people who make the bombs who've trained them to think war is peace. The reality of that tragedy is rather the fault of the rubes "on this side of the Atlantic".

http://www.michaelparenti.org/afghanistan_story_untold.html

We get it.  You are a communist, but holy shit.  How did this moron manage to write an article implying that the USSR ran a humanitarian mission in Afghanistan?  It was a proxy war to be sure, but up to 2 million people were killed and the Soviets did a shitload of that killing.  Was it OK because the enemy was CIA backed?  The PDPA were hardly saints like he wants to portray either.  They killed thousands after the coup.  

But that is OK with you if it supports the communist cause?  You have some seriously weird convictions.

Feb. 22, 2021, 4:26 p.m.
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Posted by: chupacabra

Posted by: tungsten

Posted by: syncro

There is no one on this side of the Atlantic who thinks the USSR was justified in invading Afghanistan.

Of course not, they're all inculcates of a coroprate media, owned by the friendly people who make the bombs who've trained them to think war is peace. The reality of that tragedy is rather the fault of the rubes "on this side of the Atlantic".

http://www.michaelparenti.org/afghanistan_story_untold.html

We get it. You are a communist, but holy shit. How did this moron manage to write an article implying that the USSR ran a humanitarian mission in Afghanistan? It was a proxy war to be sure, but up to 2 million people were killed and the Soviets did a shitload of that killing. Was it OK because the enemy was CIA backed? The PDPA were hardly saints like he wants to portray either. They killed thousands after the coup.

But that is OK with you if it supports the communist cause? You have some seriously weird convictions.

Holy hell, where did you dig that up from? I don't even remember saying it, but it's definitely something I would say


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Feb. 22, 2021, 5:24 p.m.
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Posted by: chupacabra

Posted by: tungsten

Posted by: syncro

There is no one on this side of the Atlantic who thinks the USSR was justified in invading Afghanistan.

Of course not, they're all inculcates of a coroprate media, owned by the friendly people who make the bombs who've trained them to think war is peace. The reality of that tragedy is rather the fault of the rubes "on this side of the Atlantic".

http://www.michaelparenti.org/afghanistan_story_untold.html

We get it.  You are a communist, but holy shit.  How did this moron manage to write an article implying that the USSR ran a humanitarian mission in Afghanistan?  It was a proxy war to be sure, but up to 2 million people were killed and the Soviets did a shitload of that killing.  Was it OK because the enemy was CIA backed?  The PDPA were hardly saints like he wants to portray either.  They killed thousands after the coup.  

But that is OK with you if it supports the communist cause?  You have some seriously weird convictions.

You can wrongheadedly infer that if you want, but it's a bit hypocritical given that your people came up with R2P.  

Make no mistake, the Soviets went into Afghan to make war. At the behest of the legitimate govt. Unlike the US who invaded and caused untold deaths simply because they wanted a prescence where they wanted a pipeline. Oh and a few military bases to surround the evil doer Russkies. Hegemony, eh?

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