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Oct. 22, 2020, 1:41 p.m.
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Gosh, I missed this.

Oct. 22, 2020, 2:47 p.m.
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Sooooo where's the Biden 2020 thread?

Shouldnt such a popular guy have his own thread....

Oct. 22, 2020, 3:31 p.m.
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https://ncdp.columbia.edu/custom-content/uploads/2020/10/Avoidable-COVID-19-Deaths-US-NCDP.pdf

By contrasting the U.S. proportional mortality rate with that of six other high-income countries, his report highlights the stark reality that is the United States’ continued mismanagement of the pandemic response. Particularly, it is the inability or unwillingness of U.S. officials to adapt or improve the federal response over the course of the pandemic that has strongly contributed to the nation’s uniquely high Covid-19 fatality rate.23 The U.S. should have – and could have – done better to protect the nation, and particularly its most vulnerable populations, from a threat that was identified and recognized early in 2020.

The failure of the federal government to (a) create a rigorous national strategy for testing and contact tracing, (b) coordinate data collection and coordination among U.S. states, or (c) recognize the scientific validity of non-pharmaceutical interventions like face coverings and social distancing reflect a deeply inadequate national response when contrasted to other high-income countries. _Our comparative analysis estimates that somewhere between 130,000 and 210,000 American deaths to date could have been avoided. _

The weight of this enormous failure ultimately falls to the leadership at the White House – and among a number of state governments – which consistently undercut the efforts of top officials at the CDC and HHS. Further, there is little evidence to suggest that science-based policies will prevail going forward with Donald Trump as President given his continued attacks on science and government scientists. A pandemic is not a time for a decentralized and combative national response. It requires strong leadership and coordination across states towards a common purpose of defeating the threat with the might of the whole nation. The cases of South Korea, Japan, Australia, Canada, Germany, and France demonstrate that the scope of the crisis and suffering did not need to reach the levels seen in the U.S.


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Oct. 23, 2020, 9:12 a.m.
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Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

1. Yes I do - they've been desperate since Nov 2016, hence throwing anything and everything at POTUS and what you call his cronies, even arresting them.

2. Did you see Obama in PA yesterday campaining for Biden? I'm also basing the liberal desperation on the comparative ground swell of support. If you think Trump is worried based on his numbers, go back a page and look at the links I posted and just be objective when you see what Harris/Biden/Obama are pulling in for a "crowd".

3. The NY Post is reporting exactly what I said about Shokin/Yanukoyvich and Joe Biden withholding a Billion dollars in aid money.  That money has now been proven to be going back to Hunter. And Joe is implicated there as the "big guy".

4. The details about the laptop are fuzzy since you would think if it was Hunter's laptop, they'd have an "in house tech person".. but Hillary didnt use one either so whatever. Also, look into the reports online about the pictures and text msg's found on Hunter's laptop. He (apparently) was smoking crack naked facetiming with his 14 yr old niece Natalie - Beau Bidens daughter, who died this year? How far did this apple fall from the tree? To follow that story, I think his therapist is in custody as the text's literally say all this.

4b. The FBI wasnt the only ones who received copies of the drive. Apparently there is indications that they've been conducting a money laundering investigation based on the laptops contents. Rudy's building some RICO case and the internet also says something along the lines of the FBI's lead child porn investigator was involved with that same laptop.

If this is emails 2.0 - no one goes to jail, they just lose the election and rightfully so. I cant believe you guys havent read about this but of course, its a crazy right wing smear campaign from those pesky white supremacists in the FBI... ...

The desperation to get Trump out of the oval office is real, but I think they have a commanding lead at the moment.  This is like 2018 where millions just want the GOP to lose.  Remember 2018?  You posted images of Trump surfing a red wave.

Crowd size is not a useful measure, but you can enjoy it while it lasts.

The NY Post article was so bad none of their actual reporters would put their name on it.  If there is evidence show it to us.  The problem for you is that even if this is a terrible crime by the Biden's your boy has lied so much that nobody is going to believe this is anything but desperation for an October surprise, especially after Barr told him he wouldn't get his Biden investigation.  Barr presumably has greater access to information than you do and he seems to think this is a nothingburger.  

I have read about this.  In case you hadn't noticed, understanding the deluded mind of the Trump Cultist is kind of a hobby for me.  

The thing you willfully ignore is that there is a lot of bullshit floating around, but courts tend to want facts.  This is why your Villain Democrats still walk free despite Trump's wishes to lock them all up and his buddies are all going to jail, all under his presidency.  If there was real evidence on Trump's side he would have used it, but he can't because it is a house of cards built on bullshit. 

Chup's prediction (I know I said I wouldn't)

- Biden wins 353-185
- Trump will whine that is was rigged but he will leave with his tail between his legs after wrecking all he can before January and leave Biden nothing for transition
- Trump will be indicted on charges of money laundering and fraud by the end of 2021 (in real court, not talk radio)
- After the devastating loss Republicans will all say they always knew Trump was a crook.
- Ring wing nationalists will take to terrorism across the country after his loss is official

Oct. 23, 2020, 10:49 a.m.
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Posted by: chupacabra

Barr presumably has greater access to information than you do and he seems to think this is a nothingburger.  

Are you sure about that?

Oct. 23, 2020, 10:49 a.m.
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Posted by: chupacabra

Chup's prediction (I know I said I wouldn't)

- Biden wins 353-185
- Trump will whine that is was rigged but he will leave with his tail between his legs after wrecking all he can before January and leave Biden nothing for transition
- Trump will be indicted on charges of money laundering and fraud by the end of 2021 (in real court, not talk radio)
- After the devastating loss Republicans will all say they always knew Trump was a crook.
- Ring wing nationalists will take to terrorism across the country after his loss is official

Speaking from down in the States, this is a real concern.  I am hoping it doesn't happen, but I have a bad feeling about the end of this year.

Oct. 23, 2020, 12:09 p.m.
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Posted by: syncro

Posted by: chupacabra

Barr presumably has greater access to information than you do and he seems to think this is a nothingburger.  

Are you sure about that?

Sure that Barr thinks there is nothing behind the Hunter Biden scandal or that he knows more than Shogun?  

For Barr it is more of an educated guess, but this Hunter Biden laptop is not new to the Trump gang. The FBI has had it for almost a year and the rumors from Ukraine are that somebody was trying to sell this information for quite a while.  This is what Guiliani has been hinting at for a while and the reason the FBI believes he is a pawn for Russian disinformation.  If they actually believed it would yield real fruit showing Biden is corrupt Barr would have appointed a special counsel by now.  Waiting this long to start bleating about it has to mean they know it's dog shit.  With less than 2 weeks to go, they don't need a real scandal, just one to muddy the waters until election day the way the Comey announcement did last time.

Oct. 23, 2020, 12:14 p.m.
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Posted by: kavurider

Posted by: chupacabra

Chup's prediction (I know I said I wouldn't)

- Biden wins 353-185
- Trump will whine that is was rigged but he will leave with his tail between his legs after wrecking all he can before January and leave Biden nothing for transition
- Trump will be indicted on charges of money laundering and fraud by the end of 2021 (in real court, not talk radio)
- After the devastating loss Republicans will all say they always knew Trump was a crook.
- Ring wing nationalists will take to terrorism across the country after his loss is official

Speaking from down in the States, this is a real concern.  I am hoping it doesn't happen, but I have a bad feeling about the end of this year.

And you just know Trump will be fanning the flames with his tiny hands straight through to January and then after that on Trump TV which will make Fox News look like Scientific American.  After what almost happened to the governor of Michigan there is no reason to believe there are not 100 more plots in the works.  I hope it won't come to that either, but the wind is blowing that way.  

Where are you located?

Oct. 23, 2020, 12:18 p.m.
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Posted by: chupacabra

wrecking all he can before January and leave Biden nothing for transition

Is why McConell won't let a vote on Cares2. Crash economy for the Dems to inherit.

Ring wing nationalists

That some kinda' worm?


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Oct. 23, 2020, 4:37 p.m.
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Posted by: chupacabra

And you just know Trump will be fanning the flames with his tiny hands straight through to January and then after that on Trump TV which will make Fox News look like Scientific American.  After what almost happened to the governor of Michigan there is no reason to believe there are not 100 more plots in the works.  I hope it won't come to that either, but the wind is blowing that way.  

Where are you located?

Arizona. This state is actually shifting blue for the first time in the 20 years I have lived here. 

Still quite a few Trump 2020 flags flying around. I find that concerning.

Oct. 24, 2020, 4:51 a.m.
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Posted by: kavurider

Posted by: chupacabra

And you just know Trump will be fanning the flames with his tiny hands straight through to January and then after that on Trump TV which will make Fox News look like Scientific American.  After what almost happened to the governor of Michigan there is no reason to believe there are not 100 more plots in the works.  I hope it won't come to that either, but the wind is blowing that way.  

Where are you located?

Arizona. This state is actually shifting blue for the first time in the 20 years I have lived here. 

Still quite a few Trump 2020 flags flying around. I find that concerning.

This reminds me of syncro's recommendation of a book called 'The righteous mind' over in the Books Not Boobs thread. 

The people flying Trump's flag think he does good. They think the opposition is the whackos.

Oct. 24, 2020, 12:10 p.m.
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Posted by: Mic

Posted by: kavurider

Posted by: chupacabra

And you just know Trump will be fanning the flames with his tiny hands straight through to January and then after that on Trump TV which will make Fox News look like Scientific American.  After what almost happened to the governor of Michigan there is no reason to believe there are not 100 more plots in the works.  I hope it won't come to that either, but the wind is blowing that way.  

Where are you located?

Arizona. This state is actually shifting blue for the first time in the 20 years I have lived here. 

Still quite a few Trump 2020 flags flying around. I find that concerning.

This reminds me of syncro's recommendation of a book called 'The righteous mind' over in the Books Not Boobs thread. 

The people flying Trump's flag think he does good. They think the opposition is the whackos.

So is Texas. It all those tech mba's type transplants from the N.E.

PACK TEH COURT JOE, PACK IT GOOD!

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2020/10/24/art-packing

Oct. 24, 2020, 12:55 p.m.
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If was going to place a bet. I would bet on Trump for the win. Just have this bad feeling he is going to take it.

Oct. 24, 2020, 10:03 p.m.
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Posted by: Brocklanders

If was going to place a bet. I would bet on Trump for the win. Just have this bad feeling he is going to take it.

Through subterfuge, maybe.

https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/10/23/advertising-vs-democracy-an-interview-with-jean-kilbourne/print/


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Oct. 26, 2020, 12:06 a.m.
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https://cepr.net/the-biden-transitions-ethics-pledge-is-a-paper-tiger/

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