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Feb. 10, 2020, 1:37 p.m.
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It sure feels like the endorsement of Trump's crimes by Senate Republicans has unleashed Trump 2 - Revenge of the Sith.  He fired not just Vindman, but also his twin brother that had nothing to do with it, and apparently Guiliani, Trump's personal lawyer, is reporting directly to Barr so he can vett the information he is getting from Ukraine first.  If I was Romney I would have one of my most expendable sons starting my car in the morning. 

Not to worry though.  The election is coming and I am sure it will be totally cool.  There is no Russian interference to worry about, Buttigieg really is a secret Nazi serial killer and swims in billionaire pools filled with 100s.  This will all smooth over by next year.  :(

Feb. 10, 2020, 3:44 p.m.
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If I were Trump Id be calling my Russian friends to hack the Democratic primaries so that Id win those too. Guaranteed win in 2020 - Trump versus Trump. Only thing that changes is the color of his tie.

Feb. 11, 2020, 1:06 p.m.
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Buttigieg really is a secret Nazi serial killer and swims in billionaire pools filled with 100s.

lol.... You mean Buttiguido? The guy who claimed victory before he lost?

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2020/02/11/if-bloomberg-wants-buy-election-he-should-run-republican-against-trump-not-sabotage


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Feb. 12, 2020, 12:14 a.m.
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Much of the liberal commentary on Donald Trump’s State of the Union address a few days ago has focused on the outright lies he made.

But where it counted for him, he told the truth.

He said during the 2016 campaign that he would take the United States out of the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP). He did. He said he would scrap the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA). He renegotiated it to brazenly benefit the United States. He said he would stand up to China, which he said was stealing American jobs and technology. He could point to his initiating a trade war with Beijing as a fulfilment of that promise.

Whether or not those acts will actually benefit the Rust Belt will long be a subject of debate. 

What matters is that Trump stuck to his promises on reversing those policies that they felt were responsible for their loss of jobs or income. 

They’ve had four years to work on it, but Democrats still have absolutely no strategy to counter Trump’s triumphalist message to the workers in those states that deserted their traditional party of choice in 2016. They have to get their act together, or it’s four more years of Trump insanity.

https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/02/11/trump-told-the-truth-where-it-countedfor-his-reelection/

Feb. 12, 2020, 4:49 p.m.
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What are people thinking lately about the Flynn and Stone cases?

Feb. 12, 2020, 5:22 p.m.
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Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

What are people thinking lately about the Flynn and Stone cases?

I've hit max saturation level at this point, I just like to see all the nonsense be finished with so I don't have to hear about any Trump related stupidities. I am often dumbfounded when watching the news and they ask people why they like Trump or if they're going to vote for him and they absolutely gush over the guy like he's never made any mistakes. *Insert fake meme of Trump's mom calling him an idiot here only because it is totally apropos.

Feb. 12, 2020, 7:06 p.m.
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never has the blatantness that the system is rigged against you been more evident than now.

Feb. 13, 2020, 10:09 a.m.
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Posted by: Adam-West

never has the blatantness that the system is rigged against you been more evident than now.

Once he got his acquittal he felt he was crowned king.  The interference in the Stone case is just the start of a new brazen Trump.  What does he have to lose?  The camps are entrenched on both sides and the lines rarely move at this point.  He has never worried about anyone but his base anyway and they clearly OK with anything he does to stay in power and push forward the Koch agenda.  2020 is going to come down to anger, fear, and passion, so I don't even know what I want anymore.  I think the Democrats can win as long as they stay terrified of another 4 years of Trump, but I am not making any predictions this time around.

Feb. 13, 2020, 10:17 a.m.
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Posted by: syncro

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

What are people thinking lately about the Flynn and Stone cases?

I've hit max saturation level at this point, I just like to see all the nonsense be finished with so I don't have to hear about any Trump related stupidities. I am often dumbfounded when watching the news and they ask people why they like Trump or if they're going to vote for him and they absolutely gush over the guy like he's never made any mistakes. *Insert fake meme of Trump's mom calling him an idiot here only because it is totally apropos.

He can do no wrong in his supporters eyes. Also has made a mockery the US legal system where nothing gets enforced against him, he just says he won't cooperate and nothing happens. Funny how Clinton had to show up to court over a BJ, orange gorilla said nope.....  At this point it look like the GOP is going to win the next election with the Dems not having the strong frontrunner. I like Bernie but many voters think socialism and communism are the same thing so that will be a done deal if he gets the nomination.

Feb. 13, 2020, 12:17 p.m.
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Posted by: Brocklanders

Posted by: syncro

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

What are people thinking lately about the Flynn and Stone cases?

I've hit max saturation level at this point, I just like to see all the nonsense be finished with so I don't have to hear about any Trump related stupidities. I am often dumbfounded when watching the news and they ask people why they like Trump or if they're going to vote for him and they absolutely gush over the guy like he's never made any mistakes. *Insert fake meme of Trump's mom calling him an idiot here only because it is totally apropos.

He can do no wrong in his supporters eyes. Also has made a mockery the US legal system where nothing gets enforced against him, he just says he won't cooperate and nothing happens. Funny how Clinton had to show up to court over a BJ, orange gorilla said nope.....  At this point it look like the GOP is going to win the next election with the Dems not having the strong frontrunner. I like Bernie but many voters think socialism and communism are the same thing so that will be a done deal if he gets the nomination.

I think it is a bit early to count out the Dems.  Obama didn't start looking like the candidate until May of 2008 and if Bernie is the candidate we will have to wait and see how well he pivots in the general election.  He might be socialist, but he doesn't have a lot of vulnerabilities in his voting record.  The reason a lot of people said he would have beaten Trump last time is that he could take some of the populist votes away from him as well.  What do liberal voters fear more?  Socialism or 4 more years of Trump?  2018 was a landslide for the Dems and Trump hate" was the main reason.

Feb. 13, 2020, 12:22 p.m.
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hmm bernie sanders or rampant cronyism giving way to facism. such a hard choice

Feb. 13, 2020, 8:36 p.m.
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I was thinking more along the lines of four attorneys in the Stone saga quitting and the delayed sentencing in both cases (Flynn and stone).

I'll shall assume that most of you support the attorneys protesting the president or something along the lines

Feb. 13, 2020, 8:45 p.m.
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Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

I was thinking more along the lines of four attorneys in the Stone saga quitting and the delayed sentencing in both cases (Flynn and stone).

I'll shall assume that most of you support the attorneys protesting the president or something along the lines

I generally don't give a shit who sits on what side of an argument, I only care that people do their due diligence, find the facts of the matter, presents the correct facts accurately and truthfully and aim to do what's morally, ethically and legally correct before choosing to serve their own interests. In short, be a good human being and don't be a shitty human being.

Feb. 14, 2020, 9:46 a.m.
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Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

I was thinking more along the lines of four attorneys in the Stone saga quitting and the delayed sentencing in both cases (Flynn and stone).

I'll shall assume that most of you support the attorneys protesting the president or something along the lines

The attorneys can do what they want, the question is do you support the DoJ interfering in ongoing cases for friends of the president.  And not just Trump.  Would it be OK if Hillary went to court from the crimes you believe she is guilty of and was sentenced only to have Bernie's AG come in and pressure the courts to go light on her?  Regardless of your political beliefs, this is not how the system was intended to work.

Feb. 14, 2020, 10 a.m.
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The whole thing is just a fuckin ruse anyway, babyhands was already bragging that he sent giuliani to ukraine to dig up dirt. literally his defense for impeaching was denying that.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-admits-giuliani-ukraine-reversing-impeachment-defense-2020-2

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