Trump.

Posted by: syncro

Posted by: ReductiMat

* Chomsky

Do you fault him for his decidedly non-centrism in his politics?

Left/Right/Center labels are useful only if you wish to identify as an ambiguous ideal.

Make omnibus bills illegal and force politicians to defend their beliefs. If they commit too many logical fallacies, their shock collar goes off.

Fault him? No, he's an individual and as such gets to choose what he believes in, just like you or me. In turn we get to criticize him if we choose. I was saying I like that he's a good communicator, not that I necessarily agree with his politics.

Disagree - we need to have some sort of labels or identifiers for concepts if we're going to debate them. Left/right/centre is simply the nomenclature we use, it could be centre/right/left for all I care. I don't care about the labels, I care about the polices the labels stand for. Again I think that's what makes Chompsky good, his use of language tends to be exacting.

ps - chompsky is something I often use in debating with a friend of mine for the aforementioned reasons, he's chomping through the vernacular, and it just tends to carry through everywhere else.

Oh and yes, I tend to agree on the omnibus bill thing. the only problem I see is that it has the potential to make passing legislation a horribly drawn out affair and hardly anything gets done.

Should we let the Chinese Government own our senior's homes?  But wait, what label do you ascribe yourself politically before you answer?

In what universe does that matter?

Every new person I meet I try my damnedest not to know how they lean and I just ask their opinions, otherwise a whole lot of fucking garbage gets in the way.

Posted by: ReductiMat

Should we let the Chinese Government own our senior's homes?  But wait, what label do you ascribe yourself politically before you answer?

In what universe does that matter?

Every new person I meet I try my damnedest not to know how they lean and I just ask their opinions, otherwise a whole lot of fucking garbage gets in the way.

How is that different from any other large corporation as long as they follow the provincial guidelines? 

The label thing was in reference to having a political discussion, so people can easily figure out where they stand, what their values are, etc. 

Sure that works for some people.

Posted by: ReductiMat

Should we let the Chinese Government own our senior's homes?  

Oh god no. The Phillipinos are bad enough!

Crooked Hillary, now Crazy Nancy. I think I’ve seen this one.

Posted by: FLATCH

Crooked Hillary, now Crazy Nancy. I think I’ve seen this one.

Someone should primary her. She slimey.

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/ralph-nader-democrats-have-no-excuse-for-backing-trumps-budget-deal/

Posted by: tungsten

Posted by: FLATCH

Crooked Hillary, now Crazy Nancy. I think I’ve seen this one.

Someone should primary her. She slimey.

LOL.  She wins by massive margins.  She gets around 80% of the vote.  I don't think she is worried about getting primaried.

Too bad. Told my sisiter I'd burn her house down if she voted for her again.

Now, for some genuine madnesss....... https://twitter.com/i/status/1208916201205833728

Ladies and gentlemen.

Full retard

https://earther.gizmodo.com/president-gravybrain-says-a-bunch-of-truly-bizarre-shit-1840607633

Posted by: syncro

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

I thought you'd dissect the company versus corporation instead of focusing on private. Now you'll say you knew it was a private corp over an organization.

Oh ffs, look up the meaning of a corporation. It's a legal standing for an organization to be recognized as it's own entity which means that it's leaders are set apart or insulated from the business. Part of the reason of benefit to doing it is that is protects the leaders/owners from getting sued. For example let's say I run a business as a sole proprietorship and I do something that causes some sort of harm hardship to someone else. If they decide to sue my company for wrong doing and they win they if the company doesn't have any assets or not enough to cover the award they can take my own personal assets to cover the award. However, if my business is incorporated - a corporation - my personal assets cannot be seized to cover the award. Some people interpret this as a way for greasy companies to escape losing their money/assets if they get sued for shitty behaviour. Some people might also say that it's no surprise that an entity like the DNC would want to be incorporated.

I focused on what you actually said and I explained my reason for doing so. Now you want to shift the goal posts and insinuate I was doing something else or had different motives. This is exactly the type of bullshit behaviour that people can't stand about you. Most of us on here don't lie about shit or purposely misrepresent (troll) the discussion just to piss you off. Take off the everyone is out to get shogun conspiracy hat.

1. You make a related but somewhat ambiguous/unclear statement.
2. Someone calls you on it and gives you a reason why.
3. You respond with something is related but not the same as the original statement or go off on another tangent altogether
4. You then claim that we're the ones getting things wrong

This is what you do over and over and over again and it's why trying to debate stuff with you is fucking painful and why people give you shit so often. The only other conclusion I can come to is you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about or have such a narrow view that you simply cannot see anything beyond what you want to see or believe in. Either way have fun with it.

Oh gimme a break. This is the type of bullshit I deal with on a regular basis. I didnt change any goal posts. In fact, you're trying to explain it away. All I said, in a round about way, was that if you knew the DNC was PRIVATE, you wouldnt have made the 'dnc private corp lol wut' comment. But you did anyways and no wall of text will correct the fact you're wrong. You can convolute this shit with your own diatribe but it doesnt make you right.

That's all my post was about. And once again, I'm somehow wrong because you just say so.

Posted by: syncro

Posted by: ReductiMat

Should we let the Chinese Government own our senior's homes?  But wait, what label do you ascribe yourself politically before you answer?

In what universe does that matter?

Every new person I meet I try my damnedest not to know how they lean and I just ask their opinions, otherwise a whole lot of fucking garbage gets in the way.

How is that different from any other large corporation as long as they follow the provincial guidelines? 

The label thing was in reference to having a political discussion, so people can easily figure out where they stand, what their values are, etc. 

Sure that works for some people.

I bet I could take that "test", answer three or four completely different ways and still come out "center".

A fat lot of good that tells anyone.

Posted by: ReductiMat

I bet I could take that "test", answer three or four completely different ways and still come out "center".

A fat lot of good that tells anyone.

Do you actually ever tell us anything?

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: ReductiMat

I bet I could take that "test", answer three or four completely different ways and still come out "center".

A fat lot of good that tells anyone.

Do you actually ever tell us anything?

I know little so rarely tell anyone anything. I have opinions that I’ll share if I’m ever asked.

By the way, who is this “us” you’re speaking for?