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Sept. 15, 2019, 6:59 a.m.
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You were drunk last night weren’t you?

Sept. 15, 2019, 9 a.m.
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Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: tashi

Seriously, you guys went around grabbing women’s crotches without their permission?

That’s fucking disgusting.

Wow - Switch thinks I cant pick up on sarcasm.

And who the hell implied there was no permission?

You did.

Sept. 15, 2019, 9:33 a.m.
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Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Love it - WW 2 nationalism was actually national socialism. National pride isnt bad - socialism is. It's getting harder to actually have some form of conversation with you so I'll resort to pictographs. Sorry, no pop ups.

This is where I say learn some history: Did you know your beloved Democrats back in the day created the KKK? I bet you'll just dismiss that as right wing propoganda though.

Well of course things that happened over 100yrs ago are perfectly relevant and applicable today because attitudes and perspective NEVER change. For the same reason it might also be worth your time with  to take a look at how how socialism has been applied in a Western setting with your recent kick on bemoaning socialism - you're way off the mark.

Sept. 16, 2019, 9:41 a.m.
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Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: chupacabra

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Not suprising you threw in the white nationalist pride part BUT, I'm not sure how you even equated those two (nationalism and religion) to make a coherent paragraph but realistically, I'll ask you the same question:

Why is nationalism all of sudden bad?

All of a sudden? Umm. WW2?

Nationalism and religion have very strong similarities and I am not the first to point this out. Did you know that when North Koreans escape DPRK (where religion is banned), they flock to churches in South Korea? They are quite different when practiced personally (spiritual journey vs civic duty and patriotism) but as an organized movement, they merge pretty closely. Authoritarian leaders often ban religion not because they are atheists, but because they don't want the competition for the devotion of the people.

And ya I brought up white nationalism. They are 100% behind Trump and I bet they all shared your post on their FB pages.

Love it - WW 2 nationalism was actually national socialism. National pride isnt bad - socialism is. It's getting harder to actually have some form of conversation with you so I'll resort to pictographs. Sorry, no pop ups.

This is where I say learn some history: Did you know your beloved Democrats back in the day created the KKK? I bet you'll just dismiss that as right wing propoganda though.

Hitler was a nationalist.  Even your little graphic agrees.  And even though I never stated anything about socialism, he was not a socialist (see link below).  The horrors he unleashed on the world was 100% nationalist in nature.  

It will keep getting harder having a conversation with me if you can't at the very least study the meaning of the terms you throw around and the history of nationalism and fascism.

Were the Nazis socialists? No, not in any meaningful way, and certainly not after 1934. But to address this canard fully, one must begin with the birth of the party.

Sept. 16, 2019, 9:42 a.m.
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Posted by: tungsten

Micheal Hudson delivers..... https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/09/13/break-up-the-democratic-party/

Boycott the Democrats if Bernie doesn't win?  Is this guy on Trump's payroll?

Sept. 17, 2019, 2:24 a.m.
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Posted by: FLATCH

You were drunk last night weren’t you?

With not having the car on the road and now being a compass card carrier, there's a good chance that's happened a lot in the past few months.

Sept. 17, 2019, 2:28 a.m.
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Posted by: syncro

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Love it - WW 2 nationalism was actually national socialism. National pride isnt bad - socialism is. It's getting harder to actually have some form of conversation with you so I'll resort to pictographs. Sorry, no pop ups.

This is where I say learn some history: Did you know your beloved Democrats back in the day created the KKK? I bet you'll just dismiss that as right wing propoganda though.

Well of course things that happened over 100yrs ago are perfectly relevant and applicable today because attitudes and perspective NEVER change. For the same reason it might also be worth your time with to take a look at how how socialism has been applied in a Western setting with your recent kick on bemoaning socialism - you're way off the mark.

I like the part where you glossed over your Dem side creating the KKK and you're ok with it because shit dont change apparently.

As for the bemoaning of socialism, I think we all should be bemoaning it. Socialism in the western setting like Venezuala?

edit: thought that was Chup posting that.. Anyways.


 Last edited by: aShogunNamedMarcus on Sept. 17, 2019, 2:29 a.m., edited 1 time in total.
Sept. 17, 2019, 10:32 a.m.
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Joined: Nov. 24, 2002

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: chupacabra

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Not suprising you threw in the white nationalist pride part BUT, I'm not sure how you even equated those two (nationalism and religion) to make a coherent paragraph but realistically, I'll ask you the same question:

Why is nationalism all of sudden bad?

All of a sudden? Umm. WW2?

Nationalism and religion have very strong similarities and I am not the first to point this out. Did you know that when North Koreans escape DPRK (where religion is banned), they flock to churches in South Korea? They are quite different when practiced personally (spiritual journey vs civic duty and patriotism) but as an organized movement, they merge pretty closely. Authoritarian leaders often ban religion not because they are atheists, but because they don't want the competition for the devotion of the people.

And ya I brought up white nationalism. They are 100% behind Trump and I bet they all shared your post on their FB pages.

Love it - WW 2 nationalism was actually national socialism. National pride isnt bad - socialism is. It's getting harder to actually have some form of conversation with you so I'll resort to pictographs. Sorry, no pop ups.

This is where I say learn some history: Did you know your beloved Democrats back in the day created the KKK? I bet you'll just dismiss that as right wing propoganda though.

Hahahahahaha...are you trying to school me? 

Cute.

Sept. 17, 2019, 11:58 a.m.
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Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

I like the part where you glossed over your Dem side creating the KKK and you're ok with it because shit dont change apparently.

As for the bemoaning of socialism, I think we all should be bemoaning it. Socialism in the western setting like Venezuala?

edit: thought that was Chup posting that.. Anyways.

The KKK was created by 6 Confederate veterans, but they did later support the Democrats.  How is this relevant?  Political parties change ideologies over time, but ideologies are defined.   Save your history lessons for the morons in r/thedonald.  

And if anyone here is considering the idea that Canada or the USA should model themselves after Venezuela we will let you know ASAP.

Sept. 17, 2019, 4:28 p.m.
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Joined: Nov. 23, 2002

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: syncro

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Love it - WW 2 nationalism was actually national socialism. National pride isnt bad - socialism is. It's getting harder to actually have some form of conversation with you so I'll resort to pictographs. Sorry, no pop ups.

This is where I say learn some history: Did you know your beloved Democrats back in the day created the KKK? I bet you'll just dismiss that as right wing propoganda though.

Well of course things that happened over 100yrs ago are perfectly relevant and applicable today because attitudes and perspective NEVER change. For the same reason it might also be worth your time with to take a look at how how socialism has been applied in a Western setting with your recent kick on bemoaning socialism - you're way off the mark.

I like the part where you glossed over your Dem side creating the KKK and you're ok with it because shit dont change apparently.

As for the bemoaning of socialism, I think we all should be bemoaning it. Socialism in the western setting like Venezuala?

edit: thought that was Chup posting that.. Anyways.

fail #1 is that the Dems didn't create the KKK

fail #2 is ignoring what I said about views changing over time or missing the obvious sarcasm with what I did say

fail #3 is thinking socialism in Venezuela or any other despot/backwater nation such as the ones you mentioned in any way at all relates to the type of socialism most Western nations have


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Sept. 17, 2019, 6:08 p.m.
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Posted by: syncro

fail #1 is that the Dems didn't create the KKK

That would have been W.D. Griffiths and his seminal film Birth of a Nation.

fail #3 is thinking socialism in Venezuela or any other despot/backwater nation such as the ones you mentioned in any way at all relates to the type of socialism most Western nations have

Socialism in Venezuela at the grass roots level is much closer to a pure version of communism. The capitalistically ingrained, deeply consumerist masses of the "west" could never adopt, much less understand such a system.

Sept. 17, 2019, 6:21 p.m.
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Posted by: tungsten

Socialism in Venezuela at the grass roots level is much closer to a pure version of communism. The capitalistically ingrained, deeply consumerist masses of the "west" could never adopt, much less understand such a system.

Which is good as evidenced by the numerous examples of failed sates that have gone down that path. 

Let's face it, what we have here (generally in the west) is probably the best way of governing human kind has put into practice yet.

Sept. 17, 2019, 8:13 p.m.
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Posted by: syncro

Posted by: tungsten

Socialism in Venezuela at the grass roots level is much closer to a pure version of communism. The capitalistically ingrained, deeply consumerist masses of the "west" could never adopt, much less understand such a system.

Which is good as evidenced by the numerous examples of failed sates that have gone down that path. 

jfc...I wasn't talking about the state.

Let's face it, what we have here (generally in the west) is probably the best way of governing human kind has put into practice yet.

codswallop

Sept. 17, 2019, 8:31 p.m.
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Posted by: tungsten

jfc...I wasn't talking about the state.

codswallop

i used the state in place of any nation that has gone down the road of communism

so name me a style of government that has done better?

Sept. 17, 2019, 9:34 p.m.
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Posted by: syncro

Posted by: tungsten

jfc...I wasn't talking about the state.

codswallop

i used the state in place of any nation that has gone down the road of communism

so name me a style of government that has done better?

https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/socialist-kerala-a-very-different-india/

https://venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/14561


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