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Sept. 26, 2018, 7:41 p.m.
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Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: tashi

You have a lot to learn about sexual assault and trauma.

Oh please do go on then?

To start, assuming that you believe what you post, you don't understand why someone wouldn't quickly report a sexual assault. Particularly under these circumstances. I suggest opening your mind and heart and asking some women who trust you why that would be. If this is too difficult, ask Google. If you want to learn more, that's up to you. If you want to criticize victims instead of understanding them, that's your choice as well.


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Sept. 26, 2018, 8:33 p.m.
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https://www.facebook.com/robbin.wood.52/posts/10217079170516462


 Last edited by: tungsten on Sept. 26, 2018, 8:59 p.m., edited 1 time in total.
Sept. 26, 2018, 9:06 p.m.
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Posted by: tashi

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: tashi

You have a lot to learn about sexual assault and trauma.

Oh please do go on then?

To start, assuming that you believe what you post, you don't understand why someone wouldn't quickly report a sexual assault. Particularly under these circumstances. I suggest opening your mind and heart and asking some women who trust you why that would be. If this is too difficult, ask Google. If you want to learn more, that's up to you. If you want to criticize victims instead of understanding them, that's your choice as well.

Dude, look at the context of the first three accuser's; not one of them apparently remembers anything other than Kavanaugh was there. I've met people who remember the day they got a DUI that changed their life let alone how good my own memory sadly is and these three lady's cant recall a date, month, year or a freakin' season until Kavanaugh released his calendar? Riiiiiiiiight.

If I can remember correctly, both the first two accuser's only remembered the event after talking it over with a lawyer. If that was in the courtroom, it'd be construed as leading the witness.

Give the moral high horse a rest because given the actuality of the claims pertaining to the gravity of a nominated Supreme Court Justice, I think them and their claims need and deserve some scrutiny.

Sept. 27, 2018, 12:59 a.m.
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Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Dude, look at the context of the first three accuser's; not one of them apparently remembers anything other than Kavanaugh was there. I've met people who remember the day they got a DUI that changed their life let alone how good my own memory sadly is and these three lady's cant recall a date, month, year or a freakin' season until Kavanaugh released his calendar? Riiiiiiiiight.

If I can remember correctly, both the first two accuser's only remembered the event after talking it over with a lawyer. If that was in the courtroom, it'd be construed as leading the witness.

Give the moral high horse a rest because given the actuality of the claims pertaining to the gravity of a nominated Supreme Court Justice, I think them and their claims need and deserve some scrutiny.

nope. 

First accuser recounted the details in counseling in 2012.  Sent a letter to her congresswoman in July when Kavanaugh was on the shortlist.   As for the details, she seems pretty clear that she remembers more than just that "Kavanaugh was there".  Excerpt from her statement to congress:

"When I got to the small gathering, people were drinking beer in a small living room on the first floor of the house. I drank one beer that evening. Brett and Mark were visibly drunk. Early in the evening, I went up a narrow set of stairs leading from the living room to a second floor to use the bathroom. When I got to the top of the stairs, I was pushed from behind into a bedroom. I couldn't see who pushed me. Brett and Mark came into the bedroom and locked the door behind them. There was music already playing in the bedroom. It was turned up louder by either Brett or Mark once we were in the room. I was pushed onto the bed and Brett got on top of me. He began running his hands over my body and grinding his hips into me. I yelled, hoping someone downstairs might hear me, and tried to get away from him, but his weight was heavy. Brett groped me and tried to take off my clothes. He had a hard time because he was so drunk, and because I was wearing a one-piece bathing suit under my clothes. I believed he was going to rape me. I tried to yell for help. When I did, Brett put his hand over my mouth to stop me from screaming. This was what terrified me the most, and has had the most lasting impact on my life. It was hard for me to breathe, and I thought that Brett was accidentally going to kill me. Both Brett and Mark were drunkenly laughing during the attack. They both seemed to be having a good time. Mark was urging Brett on, although at times he told Brett to stop. A couple of times I made eye contact with Mark and thought he might try to help me, but he did not.

During this assault, Mark came over and jumped on the bed twice while Brett was on top of me. The last time he did this, we toppled over and Brett was no longer on top of me. I was able to get up and run out of the room. Directly across from the bedroom was a small bathroom. I ran inside the bathroom and locked the door. I heard Brett and Mark leave the bedroom laughing and loudly walk down the narrow stairs, pin-balling off the walls on the way down. I waited and when I did not hear them come back up the stairs, I left the bathroom, ran down the stairs, through the living room, and left the house. I remember being on the street and feeling an enormous sense of relief that I had escaped from the house and that Brett and Mark were not coming after me."

Public testimony, you should read it:  https://edition.cnn.com/2018/09/26/politics/ford-testimony/index.html

Sept. 27, 2018, 2:24 a.m.
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She talked about it with others, such as her husband, years ago.

The guy was an ass.

Sept. 27, 2018, 1:39 p.m.
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Put on a pretty good opening performance, ...er, I mean statement, today.

Sept. 27, 2018, 1:41 p.m.
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Shogun, just stop. I can guarantee that a woman that you know and are close to was raped when she was young, but she never told anyone. It is shockingly common, but morons like yourself think it is like reporting a robbery so it doesn't make sense that they didn't just cruise down to the station and report it. Of course, after being raped it stands to reason that most people probably don't want to have their bodies examined inside out the next morning. It also makes sense that once you Google the stats and see how hard it is to win a rape case, especially if the offender can afford a top attorney that you might not want to sit in front of a jury and rehash every drunken night and sex act you ever committed so that the defense can convince the judge that you are really just a slut that wanted it.

Now let's say someone pinned you down and raped you at a party when you are 19. You are ashamed and don't report it, hoping to just go on with life. The event haunts you, but you manage to get it together, start your career etc. Then years later, the man that forced himself on you wants to be a Supreme Court Justice. He is on TV and everyone is saying what a great citizen he is. He should be venerated for life. What would you do?

The victims all welcome an FBI investigation. BK and the GOP... not so much.

E:  I should also point out that Ronin Farrow and Jane Mayer start hearing the stories from Yale Alums about Kavanaugh and the parties and started investigating before Ford came forward.  This is going to get worse.


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Sept. 27, 2018, 1:52 p.m.
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Posted by: chupacabra

Shogun, just stop.  I can guarantee that a woman that you know and are close to was raped when she was young, but she never told anyone.  It is shockingly common, but morons like yourself think it is like reporting a robbery so it doesn't make sense that they didn't just cruise down to the station and report it.  Of course, after being raped it stands to reason that most people probably don't want to have their bodies examined inside out the next morning.  It also makes sense that once you Google the stats and see how hard it is to win a rape case, especially if the offender can afford a top attorney that you might not want to sit in front of a jury and rehash every drunken night and sex act you ever committed so that the defense can convince the judge that you are really just a slut that wanted it.  

Now let's say someone pinned you down and raped you at a party when you are 19.  You are ashamed and don't report it, hoping to just go on with life.  The event haunts you, but you manage to get it together, start your career etc.  Then years later, the man that forced himself on you wants to be a Supreme Court Justice.  He is on TV and everyone is saying what a great citizen he is.  He should be venerated for life.  What would you do? 

The victims all welcome an FBI investigation.  BK and the GOP... not so much.

No I'm aShogun (and a Surrey boy) :P

Believe me, there was times in Surrey where I thought the only thing left to happen to me was get raped. Two gun and two knife incidents by the time I'm 20. But coincidentally, I didnt report that also because a brown guy with a gun/knife isnt exactly going to nail anyone in an investigation.

And for record, no matter how bad my ass hurts, I'm going vigilante on whoever rapes my ass. If you think thats hiliariously bad, wait for my next post.

Sept. 27, 2018, 1:54 p.m.
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Posted by: Couch_Surfer

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Dude, look at the context of the first three accuser's; not one of them apparently remembers anything other than Kavanaugh was there. I've met people who remember the day they got a DUI that changed their life let alone how good my own memory sadly is and these three lady's cant recall a date, month, year or a freakin' season until Kavanaugh released his calendar? Riiiiiiiiight.

If I can remember correctly, both the first two accuser's only remembered the event after talking it over with a lawyer. If that was in the courtroom, it'd be construed as leading the witness.

Give the moral high horse a rest because given the actuality of the claims pertaining to the gravity of a nominated Supreme Court Justice, I think them and their claims need and deserve some scrutiny.

nope. 

First accuser recounted the details in counseling in 2012.  Sent a letter to her congresswoman in July when Kavanaugh was on the shortlist.   As for the details, she seems pretty clear that she remembers more than just that "Kavanaugh was there".  Excerpt from her statement to congress:

So what I read on the internet about having this lined up for Gorsuch back in the day could be true.

Not one police report amongst all the accuser's? And the accuser's dont know each other but in reality, they should.

Sept. 27, 2018, 2:01 p.m.
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Dude, I really don't think the internet is for you.

Sept. 27, 2018, 3:07 p.m.
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Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: chupacabra

Shogun, just stop.  I can guarantee that a woman that you know and are close to was raped when she was young, but she never told anyone.  It is shockingly common, but morons like yourself think it is like reporting a robbery so it doesn't make sense that they didn't just cruise down to the station and report it.  Of course, after being raped it stands to reason that most people probably don't want to have their bodies examined inside out the next morning.  It also makes sense that once you Google the stats and see how hard it is to win a rape case, especially if the offender can afford a top attorney that you might not want to sit in front of a jury and rehash every drunken night and sex act you ever committed so that the defense can convince the judge that you are really just a slut that wanted it.  

Now let's say someone pinned you down and raped you at a party when you are 19.  You are ashamed and don't report it, hoping to just go on with life.  The event haunts you, but you manage to get it together, start your career etc.  Then years later, the man that forced himself on you wants to be a Supreme Court Justice.  He is on TV and everyone is saying what a great citizen he is.  He should be venerated for life.  What would you do? 

The victims all welcome an FBI investigation.  BK and the GOP... not so much.

No I'm aShogun (and a Surrey boy) :P

Believe me, there was times in Surrey where I thought the only thing left to happen to me was get raped. Two gun and two knife incidents by the time I'm 20. But coincidentally, I didnt report that also because a brown guy with a gun/knife isnt exactly going to nail anyone in an investigation.

And for record, no matter how bad my ass hurts, I'm going vigilante on whoever rapes my ass. If you think thats hiliariously bad, wait for my next post.

So, you get raped and you are going vigilante. She gets raped and she's not allowed to?

Sept. 27, 2018, 3:19 p.m.
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Posted by: skidrc

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: chupacabra

Shogun, just stop.  I can guarantee that a woman that you know and are close to was raped when she was young, but she never told anyone.  It is shockingly common, but morons like yourself think it is like reporting a robbery so it doesn't make sense that they didn't just cruise down to the station and report it.  Of course, after being raped it stands to reason that most people probably don't want to have their bodies examined inside out the next morning.  It also makes sense that once you Google the stats and see how hard it is to win a rape case, especially if the offender can afford a top attorney that you might not want to sit in front of a jury and rehash every drunken night and sex act you ever committed so that the defense can convince the judge that you are really just a slut that wanted it.  

Now let's say someone pinned you down and raped you at a party when you are 19.  You are ashamed and don't report it, hoping to just go on with life.  The event haunts you, but you manage to get it together, start your career etc.  Then years later, the man that forced himself on you wants to be a Supreme Court Justice.  He is on TV and everyone is saying what a great citizen he is.  He should be venerated for life.  What would you do? 

The victims all welcome an FBI investigation.  BK and the GOP... not so much.

No I'm aShogun (and a Surrey boy) :P

Believe me, there was times in Surrey where I thought the only thing left to happen to me was get raped. Two gun and two knife incidents by the time I'm 20. But coincidentally, I didnt report that also because a brown guy with a gun/knife isnt exactly going to nail anyone in an investigation.

And for record, no matter how bad my ass hurts, I'm going vigilante on whoever rapes my ass. If you think thats hiliariously bad, wait for my next post.

So, you get raped and you are going vigilante. She gets raped and she's not allowed to?

Context is a bit of a differential between the two yes no?

Sept. 27, 2018, 3:20 p.m.
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Posted by: chupacabra

Dude, I really don't think the internet is for you.

Innocent until proven guilty my friend.

Like I already said, if Due Process is not your thing, then you can welcome your new pussy hat overlords. I shall not.

Sept. 27, 2018, 8:27 p.m.
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https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/09/27/what-brett-kavanaugh-really-learned-in-high-school-make-the-rules-break-the-rules-and-prosper/print/

Sept. 27, 2018, 10:07 p.m.
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Posted by: switch

The guy was an ass.

Hearing him talk today, he's still an ass. He's lying. He also has a terrible temperament.

We shall call him mini Trump.


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