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May 22, 2019, 12:52 p.m.
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Posted by: switch

During a meeting in London on Tuesday, Huawei said it was "willing to sign no-spy agreements with governments" as concerns over the security of its products used in mobile networks continued to grow.

If they are willing to sign an agreement, why shouldn't they be trusted?

Because they should have to define, at length, what constitute's a no-spy agreement.

May 22, 2019, 12:53 p.m.
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Posted by: chupacabra

I thought JT was the drama queen, just got the middle ones confused.  Unless Charlie Brown's party looks close to taking my riding and voting for the Liberals or NDP might be the way to stop them I think I am just going to vote Green.  May is the only one taking climate change seriously and I have always liked her.

National Canadian Alliance . Ca

May 23, 2019, 1:09 p.m.
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1131534446044352513

May 24, 2019, 12:40 p.m.
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Posted by: tungsten

https://twitter.com/i/status/1131534446044352513

I won't hold my breath for Mnuchin's answers, but goddamn do I love both those ladies.  Whether he answers for this or not, it is important that people understand why they get canned while the rich buy another jet and both of them are incredibly effective at spreading that message.  I support them both 110% and I would love to see Warren inch her way into the Oval Office.

May 24, 2019, 9:38 p.m.
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Posted by: chupacabra

Posted by: tungsten

https://twitter.com/i/status/1131534446044352513

I won't hold my breath for Mnuchin's answers, but goddamn do I love both those ladies. Whether he answers for this or not, it is important that people understand why they get canned while the rich buy another jet and both of them are incredibly effective at spreading that message. I support them both 110% and I would love to see Warren inch her way into the Oval Office.

I see you're already setting yourself up for massive disappointment come Nov 2020 then ;)

edit: I just clicked it and saw you fully support AOC? Seriously dude? Sure I'll take opposing sides of a debate for fun but supporting a full blown commie socialist who cheated her way into her  seat and basically believe's in make believe is too much mang.. .toooooooo much.


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May 26, 2019, 9:50 p.m.
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https://balkin.blogspot.com/2019/05/can-congress-investigate-whether.html?fbclid=IwAR01ufuSioDdsBJrpyzhEiSGeFnIJDAu13whFGIOapbOTod94qJiPh0vW6A

May 27, 2019, 9:10 a.m.
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Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: chupacabra

Posted by: tungsten

https://twitter.com/i/status/1131534446044352513

I won't hold my breath for Mnuchin's answers, but goddamn do I love both those ladies. Whether he answers for this or not, it is important that people understand why they get canned while the rich buy another jet and both of them are incredibly effective at spreading that message. I support them both 110% and I would love to see Warren inch her way into the Oval Office.

I see you're already setting yourself up for massive disappointment come Nov 2020 then ;)

edit: I just clicked it and saw you fully support AOC? Seriously dude? Sure I'll take opposing sides of a debate for fun but supporting a full blown commie socialist who cheated her way into her  seat and basically believe's in make believe is too much mang.. .toooooooo much.

You still cannot see that Trump is an ignorant criminal sociopath, so I would expect anything I say to be too much for you.  If at some point you take the time to learn what communism actually is you might be on your way to some level of credibility, but for a Trump supporter to call AOC a cheater you are clearly not worth debating.  Somewhere along the way, you went from a conspiracy theorist to a full-on Trump rally cheerleader, and to use language I know you will understand, that is just sad.

May 27, 2019, 10:39 a.m.
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Posted by: chupacabra

Somewhere along the way, you went from a conspiracy theorist to a full-on Trump rally cheerleader, and to use language I know you will understand, that is just sad.

MAGA!

May 27, 2019, 12:20 p.m.
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Scary that people actually support AOC. What a fraud (intellectually, if nothing else).

May 27, 2019, 12:33 p.m.
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scarier that people support trump

May 27, 2019, 12:43 p.m.
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Posted by: grambo

Scary that people actually support AOC. What a fraud (intellectually, if nothing else).

How is she a fraud intellectually?  This smacks of tribalism because while I don't fully align with her politics (I don't think capitalism is the root of all evil), I respect how she exposes how money corrupts politics and how the rules are written for the wealthy, by the wealthy.  Her arguments are honest and in my opinion, intellectually honest, she is just young and wears bright red lipstick and that makes her an easy target.  Climate change is scary, she is just a woman with a voice which shouldn't frighten you even if you disagree with her.

May 27, 2019, 4:52 p.m.
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I find in general that the CBC Ideas Podcast has some really thought provoking stuff.  Highly applicable to this thread are two recent podcasts that are closely related.

Confronting the Disinformation Age

The Dangers of Denialism

May 27, 2019, 7:26 p.m.
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Posted by: grambo

Scary that people actually support AOC. What a fraud (intellectually, if nothing else).

It really is “any body but Trump”.  Shit, I’d vote for tungsten.

May 27, 2019, 10:39 p.m.
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Posted by: grambo

Scary that people actually support AOC. What a fraud (intellectually, if nothing else).

What are you scared of, grambo?

FEBRUARY 14, 2019

AOC is Under Fire Because She is Right

by JESSE JACKSON 

The big guns are out for Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the charismatic first-term legislator from New York.

In an apparent swipe at Ocasio-Cortez, Donald Trump used part of his rambling State of the Union address to say he was “alarmed by new calls to adopt socialism in our country.” 

Billionaire former Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz cited Ocasio-Cortez’s support for a 70 percent tax rate on income above $10 million a year as one reason he may decide to run as an independent for president, and not as a Democrat. 

The young congresswoman isn’t easily cowed. She called out Trump, saying “I think he’s scared.” 

“He feels himself losing on the issues. Every single policy proposal that we have adopted and presented to the American public has been overwhelmingly popular, even some with a majority of Republican voters supporting.” 

Ocasio-Cortez is exactly right. Schultz may think calls for Medicare for all are “un-American,” but the vast majority of Americans support it. Consider the following: 

Reuters poll: 70 percent support Medicare for all, including 52 percent of Republicans. 

Fox News poll: 70 percent support raising taxes on those making over $10 million a year. 

Bloomberg poll: 62 percent support tuition-free college. 

Kaiser Foundation poll: 92 percent support having Medicare negotiate with drug companies to lower drug prices. 

Hart poll: 63 percent support $15 minimum wage. 

Yale/George Mason poll: 81 percent support the Green New Deal plan. 

There is a wide gulf between the political center and the moral center. 

Dr. Martin Luther King used to teach that “cowardice asks the question, is it expedient? And then expedience comes along and asks the question, is it politic? Vanity asks the question, is it popular? Conscience asks the question, is it right? There comes a time when one must take the position that is neither safe nor politic nor popular, but he must do it because conscience tells him it is right.” 

Politicians worry about donors. They hear from lobbyists, from special interests, from corporations that can spend unlimited money in political campaigns without revealing it. 

The moral center is concerned with what is right — and what can work. 

What is different now is that the moral center — what is right — is also increasingly popular. The political class is running scared because more and more people understand that the rules have been rigged to benefit only the few. So Trump and Republicans and billionaires like Schultz yell “socialism,” “Venezuela,” “extremism,” “radicalism.” They need to spread fear to protect a discredited political center. 

Don’t fall for it. Medicare for all isn’t socialism; it’s common sense. A living wage isn’t radical; it’s a moral imperative. 

We now suffer an extreme inequality not witnessed since before the Great Depression. It is time for the moral center to make itself heard. 

And now a new generation of leaders is rising that just may be ready to take on the fight. Like AOC, they will come under intense fire. They will succeed only if we build a popular movement strong enough to overcome the resistance. 

AOC is young and smart and charismatic, and she and her colleagues may help us begin to heal a nation. 

Jesse Jackson is the founder of Rainbow/PUSH.

May 28, 2019, 10:29 a.m.
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Posted by: syncro

I find in general that the CBC Ideas Podcast has some really thought provoking stuff.  Highly applicable to this thread are two recent podcasts that are closely related.

Confronting the Disinformation Age

The Dangers of Denialism

Thank you, sir.  I am always looking for good long-form conversation podcasts.

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