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Dec. 7, 2017, 7:17 p.m.
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Posted by: chupacabra

That is quite the Flynn friendly article you have there Tungsten.  Lying to the FBI is a federal crime and they would have told Flynn that before his interview.  He didn't simply forget stuff like they are implying.  He lied, in other words, he knowingly committed a felony to cover up those conversations.  They compare this to what happened to Clinton, which is appropriate, but we know what Clinton's motivation to lie was.  What was Flynn's?  He is not another one of Trump's bumbling morons, he knew better.  He lied to the FBI because it was worth it to lie.  

We have much more to find out here and the article you linked likes to act like we know all there is to know.  Anything that Mueller has that is more damning won't come out until they are done. 

Do you really think Flynn just forgot a few details in an interview and that is enough to plead guilty to the charge?  If that is all he has to hide why wouldn't he fight it?  Do you honestly believe that Mueller, a lifelong Republican is out to get Trump is a political witch hunt?

It really is an interesting thing. A former Director of Defense Intelligence Agency and a Lt. General knowing lied to the FBI. To add to the mix, he was Trumps Nat Sec. Advisor for what, all of three weeks; from the Internet, the time frame to which he's being questioned is more about the Obama tenure. Also from the 'net, they say he needed a forum to talk since he's a patriot so now he can (possibly) air it all out regarding any crimes he may be aware of that have previously transgressed. But that's the internet.

Also some other angle's regarding all the sealed indictments: gang related people or some of the marijuana industry.

What's your thought's on Mueller and the scope of the investigation? Is he going for Trump for political reasons as a swamp dweller (he was appointed the FBI Director a week before 9/11) or is he doing his job and Trump is dirtay or has he found or knows of some criminal wrongdoing that needs to be addressed? Or even something else?

Dec. 7, 2017, 7:37 p.m.
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In other Trump Admin. news, they may designate the Muslim Brotherhood as a Foreign Terrorist Organiztion. Yes, the same one's you guys laughed at me on here for and the same one that Obama gave over a metric shit ton of cash to. The CIA says that'd be baaaad.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/02/cia-memo-designating-muslim-brotherhood-could-fuel-extremism-214757

I have an oxymoronic question... maybe as usual but, looking at the link alone, if that designation could fuel extremism, then does that imply and or prove they're extremists coming from a CIA analyst?

From the linked article:

“@BarackObama's budget funds the ‘Arab Spring’ with $800B and the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt $1.3B in military aid. He loves radical Islam,” Trump tweeted in February 2012. “Obama now wants to give another $450M to the Muslim Brotherhood. Money we don't have going to people that hate us. Moronic,” he wrote later in October, one of two dozen tweets on the subject over the course of 2012 and 2013.

Dec. 7, 2017, 9:05 p.m.
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Stop attributing this to a political party. Americans are a warmongering nation.

It doesn't matter who their queen is at the time.

Dec. 8, 2017, 1:41 a.m.
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Posted by: ReductiMat

Stop attributing this to a political party. Americans are a warmongering nation.

It doesn't matter who their queen is at the time.

Stop attributing the war mongering of the puppet masters to the population base.

Not all Canadians tote the happy libtarded line of the Trudeau now do they?

So tell us how you really feel.

Dec. 8, 2017, 9:16 a.m.
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Posted by: tungsten

Absolutely. Remember Muellers the clown that oversaw the insidious and destructive sting operations that "manufactured" and entrapped over 500 peeps on terrorism charges.

He's a bum. But don't take it from me. Here's a first person account from one of his co-workers.

You are really a master of cognitive bias research.  You look so hard for conspiracies that you don't seem to see the obvious staring you in the face.  Trump is a goddamn arrogant con-man and has a shady past.  The evidence of collusion with the Russians is over-fucking-whelming and piles up by the day.  Flynn lied.  We know that.  Why would he take a massive risk and lie? There is no need to drag Mueller into this because the person investigating their obvious crimes and blunders really doesn't matter.  They would all come to the same conclusions.  

Listen to Toucan Sam and follow your nose.

Dec. 8, 2017, 9:19 a.m.
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Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: ReductiMat

Stop attributing this to a political party. Americans are a warmongering nation.

It doesn't matter who their queen is at the time.

Stop attributing the war mongering of the puppet masters to the population base.

Not all Canadians tote the happy libtarded line of the Trudeau now do they?

So tell us how you really feel.

I understand what you are saying BUT, in my lifetime the only President that wasn't more than willing to bomb people was Carter.  Trudeau, on the other hand, has not been P.M. for 45 years.  If  Americans voted for more peaceful politicians maybe they wouldn't seem so eager to go to war.

Dec. 8, 2017, 7:50 p.m.
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Posted by: chupacabra

You are really a master of cognitive bias research.  You look so hard for conspiracies that you don't seem to see the obvious staring you in the face.  Trump is a goddamn arrogant con-man and has a shady past.  The evidence of collusion with the Russians is over-fucking-whelming and piles up by the day.  Flynn lied.  We know that.  Why would he take a massive risk and lie? There is no need to drag Mueller into this because the person investigating their obvious crimes and blunders really doesn't matter.  They would all come to the same conclusions.  

Listen to Toucan Sam and follow your nose.

Pull your head out. You've been brainwashed by corporate media. 

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength. 

Find yourself below.....

https://consentfactory.org/2017/12/08/the-year-of-the-headless-liberal-chicken/

Dec. 8, 2017, 9:34 p.m.
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Posted by: chupacabra

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: ReductiMat

Stop attributing this to a political party. Americans are a warmongering nation.

It doesn't matter who their queen is at the time.

Stop attributing the war mongering of the puppet masters to the population base.

Not all Canadians tote the happy libtarded line of the Trudeau now do they?

So tell us how you really feel.

I understand what you are saying BUT, in my lifetime the only President that wasn't more than willing to bomb people was Carter. Trudeau, on the other hand, has not been P.M. for 45 years. If Americans voted for more peaceful politicians maybe they wouldn't seem so eager to go to war.

I'll carry the sentiment over from what I said to Reductitron unless you has two accounts and got them confused ;) ; if Americans had better options, they'd have better results. We're well aware of the two party system that only lets (approved) billionaires run so why would anyone who realizes this and accepts it, hold it against the average American? Your Trudeau comment failed to be relevant to the quote. My Trudeau comment was just a comparison. If you count drone strikes, Obama rolls over Carter. Remember, they used to be semi honest about what they did or were doing in an international theater. Now, it's an obfuscation just to obfuscate the already muddy waters.

Dec. 8, 2017, 9:58 p.m.
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Posted by: chupacabra

Trump is a goddamn arrogant con-man and has a shady past. The evidence of collusion with the Russians is over-fucking-whelming and piles up by the day. Flynn lied. We know that. Why would he take a massive risk and lie? There is no need to drag Mueller into this because the person investigating their obvious crimes and blunders really doesn't matter. They would all come to the same conclusions.

Honest initial question: So you think Hillary would still be better the choice despite covering up Uranium One and actually dealing with the Russian's. The dirtyness of that deal alone, despite you saying it's a veggie burger, is massive. It borders on or is Treasonous action. Didnt Comey say there was no evidence of Trump/Russia after his leaked memo came out? He lied to the FBI himself but, Directorship of the FBI must have some privilege. Mueller matter's because he's implicated in UraniumOne himself. No conflict of interest at all. Mueller should know (and does). And you sure as shit should recognize it because other's do. Google up Mueller conflict of interest. Oh and this looks like one of those color revolutions.. I'll go with purple.

I think the better question is what happens after a) Trump himself is cleared but some/most of his party is charged for whatever previous implications they did or b) Trump falls. What then?

ps: Trump's shady past with Russian's possibly lending him money for NYC/Atlantic City projects has sfa to do with Russian Election Interference in 2016.

Dec. 9, 2017, 7:31 a.m.
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thats all interesting shit to read on the computer but how is trump at actualy  running the country,  is shit getting done ?

Dec. 9, 2017, 11:50 a.m.
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Posted by: XXX_er

thats all interesting shit to read on the computer but how is trump at actualy running the country, is shit getting done ?

Certainly. His minions are busy destroying the last vestiges of the New Deal, Great Society, etc.

The ruling elites in America are more concerned about orchestrating a new cold war than they are Trump fleecing working people, destroying EPA, FDA, etc etc.


 Last edited by: tungsten on Dec. 10, 2017, 5:15 p.m., edited 3 times in total.
Dec. 11, 2017, 7:14 a.m.
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They certainly have undone a lot of good. Soon we should see him approach the podium wearing an old Stetson ,smoking a Pom Pom with a six shooter strapped to his hip.

Dec. 11, 2017, 11:37 a.m.
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Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: chupacabra

Trump is a goddamn arrogant con-man and has a shady past. The evidence of collusion with the Russians is over-fucking-whelming and piles up by the day. Flynn lied. We know that. Why would he take a massive risk and lie? There is no need to drag Mueller into this because the person investigating their obvious crimes and blunders really doesn't matter. They would all come to the same conclusions.

Honest initial question: So you think Hillary would still be better the choice despite covering up Uranium One and actually dealing with the Russian's. The dirtyness of that deal alone, despite you saying it's a veggie burger, is massive. It borders on or is Treasonous action. Didnt Comey say there was no evidence of Trump/Russia after his leaked memo came out? He lied to the FBI himself but, Directorship of the FBI must have some privilege. Mueller matter's because he's implicated in UraniumOne himself. No conflict of interest at all. Mueller should know (and does). And you sure as shit should recognize it because other's do. Google up Mueller conflict of interest. Oh and this looks like one of those color revolutions.. I'll go with purple.

I think the better question is what happens after a) Trump himself is cleared but some/most of his party is charged for whatever previous implications they did or b) Trump falls. What then?

ps: Trump's shady past with Russian's possibly lending him money for NYC/Atlantic City projects has sfa to do with Russian Election Interference in 2016.

Look at the facts on Uranium One.  This was the sale of controlling interest in a Canadian Company (Uranium One) to a Russian company (Rosatom) and there were 9 agencies that needed to sign on off on the deal, one of which was the State Dept with Obama having the ability to veto it. So...

How was HRC able to control all 9 departments as well as Obama and get the deal done?

The uranium can't be exported from the US and since the US does not have significant reserves, so what is the implication of this deal that anyone should worry about?

How is Mueller "implicated" in the deal?

What if any evidence is there that HRC made a deal with anyone?

Yes, Hillary was the better choice because she is A) not a fucking moron and B) doesn't bow to Putin.  

We will see what comes out but doesn't all the Russian contact and the odd man-crush that Trump has for Putin (unrequited too I might add) strike you as a burning red flag?  The Russians have something on Trump and that has everything to do with election interference.

Dec. 11, 2017, 9:55 p.m.
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There’s nothing wrong with the Uranium One deal - Trumps hot air on the topic is all smoke and mirrors for people who do not understand the transaction and it also gives him a (incorrect) way to connect HRC with the Russians to negate his own Russian connections. Pure distraction. Pure BS that plays to his base. 

The best (really the worst) part of it all is that Trumps likely the biggest crook of them all. You don’t have his private real estate biz otherwise.

Dec. 12, 2017, 1:47 p.m.
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The U.S. mainstream media’s year-long hysteria over Russia’s alleged role in the election of Donald Trump has obliterated normal reporting standards leading to a rash of journalistic embarrassments that have both disgraced the profession and energized Trump’s backers over new grievances about the MSM’s “fake news.”

Misguided groupthink is always a danger when key elements of the Washington establishment and the major news media share the same belief – whether that is Iraq’s supposed possession of WMD or the need to bring down some foreign or domestic leader unpopular with the elites.

Yet, we have rarely witnessed such a cascading collapse of journalistic principles as has occurred around the Russia-gate “scandal.” It is hard to keep track of all the corrections or to take note of all the dead ends that the investigation keeps finding.

https://consortiumnews.com/2017/12/11/russia-gates-litany-of-corrections/

Freedom of contract. We sell them guns that kill them; they sell us drugs that kill us.

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