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Sept. 28, 2018, 10:35 p.m.
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They're all fucked, as are all of you (including me).  We're only getting out of this mess if you assume every news feed is full of bias and flaws.

Sept. 29, 2018, 1:08 a.m.
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Posted by: Hepcat

So, what would be your main  day to day information source?

I'm mostly using NPR (am in U.S.). Also BBC & The Wall Street Journal.

(Btw, yes that's Catthulhu. Long time tabletop RPG nerd).

My main source is what I'll just call a publicly user generated news forum. Its actually crack-like addictive.

I'll read other sources if it pertains to something else I've read.

I think Cathulhu needs longer whisker's.

Sept. 29, 2018, 1:11 a.m.
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Posted by: Hepcat

Nah, NPR is slightly left of center and highly factually accurate, WSJ is to the right, but not far enough to completely lose the plot. BBC is nice for the non-american perspective. I did my due diligence before subscribing to these news sources.

Perhaps we all should.

What's your go-to Tungsten?

You must be new here. Tungsten is all about spoon feeding the Counterpunch.

To us.

In really long quotes, that often times seems never ending in length.

I think he's got some click back deal going with them.

Sept. 29, 2018, 1:13 a.m.
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Posted by: ReductiMat

They're all fucked, as are all of you (including me).  We're only getting out of this mess if you assume every news feed is full of bias and flaws.

And considering that Kavanaugh apparently wrote part of the Patriot Act and was a judge on it, you're probably spot on.

Sept. 29, 2018, 1:15 a.m.
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Posted by: switch

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Adam you're usually one of the more level headed people who doesnt do blanket statements...

That should tell you a lot about the stuff you are posting.

Ya I get it. I questioned the validity of a women who cried Rape.

How dare I?

Guess that's just my born privilege to do that.

Sept. 29, 2018, 7:56 p.m.
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Joined: May 23, 2006

Posted by: Hepcat

Nah, NPR is slightly left of center and highly factually accurate, WSJ is to the right, but not far enough to completely lose the plot. BBC is nice for the non-american perspective. I did my due diligence before subscribing to these news sources.

Perhaps we all should.

What's your go-to Tungsten?

https://consortiumnews.com/

https://www.truthdig.com/

https://theintercept.com/

https://www.blackagendareport.com/

https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/1046060876091072523

https://www.counterpunch.org/

NPR makes me want to throw things at the tee vee. It could be thought of as slightly left of centre of the WSJ but they still spew corporatist/capitalist/militarist broilerplate.

Cdn content...

https://thetyee.ca/

http://www.columbiajournal.ca/18-09/index.html


 Last edited by: tungsten on Sept. 29, 2018, 8:21 p.m., edited 4 times in total.
Sept. 29, 2018, 8:36 p.m.
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Posted by: tungsten

Put on a pretty good opening performance, ...er, I mean statement, today.

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2018/09/29/unhinged-unlikely

Sept. 30, 2018, 10:47 a.m.
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Thanks for the list Tungsten, enjoyed perusing something different. Generally rated highly accurate. I would use them personally, but too inflammatory for me.

Sure I get the news, but I also feel like punching a misinformed conservative afterwards. That could be bad at my work-place. On Friday a co-worker happily regurgitated the morning "news" that Kavanaugh had passed 3 lie detector tests. 🔥

Apparently conservative talk radio can be even less accurate than Fox, no small feat.

Shogun, I think stepping out of the echo chamber of those news forums might feel like a breath of fresh air eh?


 Last edited by: Hepcat on Sept. 30, 2018, 11:29 a.m., edited 1 time in total.
Sept. 30, 2018, 12:38 p.m.
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Posted by: Hepcat

Shogun, I think stepping out of the echo chamber of those news forums might feel like a breath of fresh air eh?

I do, I just dont rely on anything actually let alone commit to one. I will say what I do like about the echo chamber: you will have other people who'll randomly tie things together or basically collab real time. US MSM News only does that to push an agenda and to form or sway public opinion. To sum up my position again: I dont like news, I like info.

Sept. 30, 2018, 12:53 p.m.
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Posted by: Hepcat

Got a theory: Fox, info wars, etc give people easy to swallow short sound bites that play off of prejudices. I noticed this at my work one day when 3 separate (conservative) co-workers repeated the same odd Fox news bite to me.

As long as you don't tune into any legitimate news sources, ever, this misdirected narrative becomes...reality. Angry reality that you need to vent about.

It's like eating ice cream sundaes every night for dinner, after a while you don't even want to hear about fucking broccoli.

That's one of the best "news" analogies I've ever heard. Well done.

Sept. 30, 2018, 1:48 p.m.
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Fox is notorious for taking snippets and cutting them off, completely destroying what people said.  Something like "If the President was absolutely right, then the facts would show that" to "...the President was absolutely right...".

But if you watch Fox News at noon, it's almost 180 degrees from the evening stuff.

Oct. 1, 2018, 12:11 a.m.
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Posted by: switch

Fox is notorious for taking snippets and cutting them off, completely destroying what people said.  Something like "If the President was absolutely right, then the facts would show that" to "...the President was absolutely right...".

But if you watch Fox News at noon, it's almost 180 degrees from the evening stuff.

All y'all should try reading the news sometimes. Not only is it searchable that way but you dont come across as much edits or the evil spin.

Oct. 1, 2018, 4:35 a.m.
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believe none of what you hear, some of what you read and only half of what you see. I think that's how it goes.


 Last edited by: FLATCH on Oct. 1, 2018, 4:50 a.m., edited 1 time in total.
Oct. 1, 2018, 9:51 a.m.
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Joined: June 29, 2006

I think the trick is to constantly evaluate your news.  It is easy to do in hindsight.  Do you still believe most of what you did a year ago... or two years ago?  Do the events of today make sense based on what you believe and what you used to believe is the most likely truth?  This skill is going to be more and more critical going forward.  I agree with Reductimat, assume it is all full of bias, but pay attention to the sources that hold up over time.  Also, pay attention to coincidences.  There is far more chaos than order.  Politicians fling shit at their opponents, rarely do they employ a laser-guided shit gun.

Oct. 1, 2018, 10:29 a.m.
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Joined: May 23, 2006

https://canadians.org/blog/good-bad-and-ugly-nafta-20

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