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Oct. 20, 2020, 11:45 a.m.
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Posted by: FLATCH

It’s on Twitter, it’s got to be true, right?

Besides, a retired NYPD chief clean as a whistle, ya right. He takes orders from guys like ex Mayor Giuliani, it’s totally possible for him to be on the take.

Well obviously if Trump is a Russian asset,  anythings possible right? I'm surprised you dont believe Trudeau is Castro's lovechild based on how well the Ruskies have infiltrated the US Gov.

Oct. 20, 2020, 12:10 p.m.
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Posted by: KenN

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: KenN

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: XXX_er

I am saying that Clinton's crime of using a private email server is a minor infraction compared to all the crimes Trump could and may well still be charged with. I am also saying that harping on Clinton when she doesn't even hold office is just sad. Trump is committing manslaughter in real-time and you want to discuss parking tickets from 4 years ago.

yeah this ^^ what did she actulay do that was so I bad I don't understand

cuz anything that Hill has done so far pales in comparison to the big orange

he may have some real legal problems when he loses on nov 5th and can no longer hide behind being the POTUS

What she did is this: An unsecured server housing documents that were required to be held in a SCIF (a highly sensitive computer in a secure vault) that multiple foreign governments didnt even have to hack to read; possibly pay to play. Why not search about the CIA's china team that may have been disappeared because of that highly classified yet unsecure information. Not only that, as Sec of State, she was briefed on how to handle classified info and you guys wanted her running that Country.

She did what Colin Powell and Condoleeza Rice did. And Hillary knew that's what they did because they recommended it to her.

gimme a link yo.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/08/colin-powell-hillary-clinton-email-state-department

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/04/colin-powell-condoleezza-rice-private-email-accounts-classified-hillary-clinton

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/rice-aides-powell-also-got-classified-info-personal-emails-n511181

Well that makes it all ok then dont it.

Oct. 20, 2020, 12:20 p.m.
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Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: chupacabra

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: chupacabra

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

So by your glaring liberal logic, its ok Trump invited the waiter into the room since it was done out of ignorance and previously done by others? And we allllll know how dumb he is so you cant actually blame him then right? See how fucking stupid that logic of yours is? As for the SCIF, I was basically right. A secure computer in a secure room. And no evidence anything was stolen from it? You are well beyond the kool aid my friend.

That is exactly how Trump escaped any repercussions from Mueller.  Mueller said the meeting in Trump Tower was not criminal because they were all too dumb to know they were being played.  They were too stupid to collude.  And ya, Trump is getting a free pass for the Malt story too.  We share it because it is ridiculous, but find me a single person in power that is seeking to have Trump punished for it the way you are with Hillary?  This is also not the only time he has been lax on security.  There are stories of him with open classified materials at his table at Mara Lago in full view of his waiter, and sharing classified info with Russian in the Oval Office.  Again, find me one person saying we should lock Trump up for this offense?  Yet you act as though Hillary is the Zodiac killer at large for her email server.    

Donald Trump's disclosures of classified information

And you were not basically right.  A SCIF is a meeting room, not a secure server.  If there was a computer in a SCIF, Hillary wouldn't be able to just take something from it on a thumb drive and head out.

It's a secure meeting room with secure computers, no cell phones. Now perhaps you see why Hilary's home email server was an issue (because it wasnt in a SCIF with logged access and didnt even have a basic firewall). If we're going tit for tat,  Hilary or Huma left their laptop on the plane in China or Iran.

If we were going tit for tat I would need to spend the next 4 years after Trump loses the election to whine about the malt he ordered and demand an indictment.  I want Trump indicted, but not for petty bullshit or for him being a moron.

If you are saying that Hillary's emails contained materials that she stole from a SCIF then I would like to see a citation.  I am not an expert, but I don't think that most classified materials need to be viewed in a SCIF.  The Buttery Males scandal was never about her sharing classified materials through emails, it was about her using her own server instead of the government one to share that information.  Isn't it your job to keep track of your conspiracy theories?

Oct. 20, 2020, 12:42 p.m.
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Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: Couch_Surfer

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

What was on Hunter Biden's laptop? Nothing good from the sounds of it.

Former NYPD Commissioner: I’ve Seen Hunter’s Hard Drive, The Bidens ‘Belong in Handcuffs’

220,000 dead americans due to a complete and utter failed COVID response by team Trump. That's the only story that matters at this point.

No it doesnt. Besides, you guys seem to think all 'Muricans are stupid so this should be a good thing for you boys.

Yeah.  It is.

Especially when trying to pivot the narrative to a manufactured scandal intended to distract from 220,000 dead Americans due to a failed Covid response by Trump.

Oct. 20, 2020, 1:08 p.m.
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Joined: Nov. 8, 2003

Just saw an interview with the Central Park 5, Jesus. And the real estate developer with orange hair is still up to the same shenanigans today.

In case you've forgotten:

https://youtu.be/Paf8MPhSG08

Ken Burns documentary:

https://youtu.be/AehmA3hTLmA

Oct. 20, 2020, 1:19 p.m.
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Joined: Dec. 30, 2002

Posted by: chupacabra

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: chupacabra

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: chupacabra

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

So by your glaring liberal logic, its ok Trump invited the waiter into the room since it was done out of ignorance and previously done by others? And we allllll know how dumb he is so you cant actually blame him then right? See how fucking stupid that logic of yours is? As for the SCIF, I was basically right. A secure computer in a secure room. And no evidence anything was stolen from it? You are well beyond the kool aid my friend.

That is exactly how Trump escaped any repercussions from Mueller. Mueller said the meeting in Trump Tower was not criminal because they were all too dumb to know they were being played. They were too stupid to collude. And ya, Trump is getting a free pass for the Malt story too. We share it because it is ridiculous, but find me a single person in power that is seeking to have Trump punished for it the way you are with Hillary? This is also not the only time he has been lax on security. There are stories of him with open classified materials at his table at Mara Lago in full view of his waiter, and sharing classified info with Russian in the Oval Office. Again, find me one person saying we should lock Trump up for this offense? Yet you act as though Hillary is the Zodiac killer at large for her email server.

Donald Trump's disclosures of classified information

And you were not basically right. A SCIF is a meeting room, not a secure server. If there was a computer in a SCIF, Hillary wouldn't be able to just take something from it on a thumb drive and head out.

It's a secure meeting room with secure computers, no cell phones. Now perhaps you see why Hilary's home email server was an issue (because it wasnt in a SCIF with logged access and didnt even have a basic firewall). If we're going tit for tat, Hilary or Huma left their laptop on the plane in China or Iran.

If we were going tit for tat I would need to spend the next 4 years after Trump loses the election to whine about the malt he ordered and demand an indictment. I want Trump indicted, but not for petty bullshit or for him being a moron.

If you are saying that Hillary's emails contained materials that she stole from a SCIF then I would like to see a citation. I am not an expert, but I don't think that most classified materials need to be viewed in a SCIF. The Buttery Males scandal was never about her sharing classified materials through emails, it was about her using her own server instead of the government one to share that information. Isn't it your job to keep track of your conspiracy theories?

We should be able to agree classified info shouldnt be left on any unsecured device. My point about the SCIF is its a secure area with secure protrocols, both for personel, devices and communication of those devices. Another would be any phone would not get reception inside a SCIF. As for the tit for tat, how far back we going here? 80s Franklin Scandal?


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Oct. 20, 2020, 1:22 p.m.
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Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: KenN

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: KenN

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: XXX_er

I am saying that Clinton's crime of using a private email server is a minor infraction compared to all the crimes Trump could and may well still be charged with. I am also saying that harping on Clinton when she doesn't even hold office is just sad. Trump is committing manslaughter in real-time and you want to discuss parking tickets from 4 years ago.

yeah this ^^ what did she actulay do that was so I bad I don't understand

cuz anything that Hill has done so far pales in comparison to the big orange

he may have some real legal problems when he loses on nov 5th and can no longer hide behind being the POTUS

What she did is this: An unsecured server housing documents that were required to be held in a SCIF (a highly sensitive computer in a secure vault) that multiple foreign governments didnt even have to hack to read; possibly pay to play. Why not search about the CIA's china team that may have been disappeared because of that highly classified yet unsecure information. Not only that, as Sec of State, she was briefed on how to handle classified info and you guys wanted her running that Country.

She did what Colin Powell and Condoleeza Rice did. And Hillary knew that's what they did because they recommended it to her.

gimme a link yo.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/08/colin-powell-hillary-clinton-email-state-department

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/04/colin-powell-condoleezza-rice-private-email-accounts-classified-hillary-clinton

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/rice-aides-powell-also-got-classified-info-personal-emails-n511181

Well that makes it all ok then dont it.

No, it means that republican supporters like yourself pointing the finger and saying "lock her up" are truly pots, and they are accusing the kettle of being less than white.

Oct. 20, 2020, 1:22 p.m.
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Joined: Dec. 30, 2002

Posted by: Couch_Surfer

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: Couch_Surfer

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

What was on Hunter Biden's laptop? Nothing good from the sounds of it.

Former NYPD Commissioner: I’ve Seen Hunter’s Hard Drive, The Bidens ‘Belong in Handcuffs’

220,000 dead americans due to a complete and utter failed COVID response by team Trump. That's the only story that matters at this point.

No it doesnt. Besides, you guys seem to think all 'Muricans are stupid so this should be a good thing for you boys.

Yeah.  It is.

Especially when trying to pivot the narrative to a manufactured scandal intended to distract from 220,000 dead Americans due to a failed Covid response by Trump.

Failed? He wanted to limit air travel first but remember around Feb 2020, Pelosi went to SF's China town and Biden said it'd be bad for the economy. Enter Fauci shortly after that. You guys are so blinded by the Trumphate you cant even discern the events without bias.

Oct. 20, 2020, 1:25 p.m.
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Joined: Dec. 30, 2002

Posted by: KenN

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Well that makes it all ok then dont it.

No, it means that republican supporters like yourself pointing the finger and saying "lock her up" are truly pots, and they are accusing the kettle of being less than white.

First, I'm not a supporter of much. Second, what happened to black?

Oct. 20, 2020, 1:41 p.m.
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Joined: Dec. 30, 2002

Posted by: chupacabra

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

What was on Hunter Biden's laptop? Nothing good from the sounds of it.

Former NYPD Commissioner: I’ve Seen Hunter’s Hard Drive, The Bidens ‘Belong in Handcuffs’

Ya, I don't think an ex-con and good buddy of Rudy's that was pardoned by Trump makes for a believable witness.  Do you vet anything you read?

Forgot something worth adding without editing: A Biden lawyer did request the laptop back, no one is disputing the emails are authentic (other than 50 FORMER intel officers and Clapper n Brennan via Politico) while the Biden camp has a lid on things until Thursday. Guilliani is mentioning a bombshell tomorrow.

If you think thats crazy and unvetted about the laptop, go and read Wayne Allen Riot on twitter is saying about the hard drives as I wont link that shit (yet). Apparently there is the laptop, 3 extra hard drives that came from somewhere (CCP apparently), Hunter's cell phone is in the mix and Ukrainian officials linked to Russia has a 2nd laptop in Ukraine. Crack is whack and this is too.

Oct. 20, 2020, 1:41 p.m.
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Joined: Feb. 19, 2003

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: Couch_Surfer

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: Couch_Surfer

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

What was on Hunter Biden's laptop? Nothing good from the sounds of it.

Former NYPD Commissioner: I’ve Seen Hunter’s Hard Drive, The Bidens ‘Belong in Handcuffs’

220,000 dead americans due to a complete and utter failed COVID response by team Trump. That's the only story that matters at this point.

No it doesnt. Besides, you guys seem to think all 'Muricans are stupid so this should be a good thing for you boys.

Yeah. It is.

Especially when trying to pivot the narrative to a manufactured scandal intended to distract from 220,000 dead Americans due to a failed Covid response by Trump.

Failed? He wanted to limit air travel first but remember around Feb 2020, Pelosi went to SF's China town and Biden said it'd be bad for the economy. Enter Fauci shortly after that. You guys are so blinded by the Trumphate you cant even discern the events without bias.

Failed. 4.25% of the world's population. 20% of world's Covid infections.

Failed. 220,000 dead Americans.

Most amount of deaths. Richest Country on Earth. Deaths that were preventable if the President of the United States had the simple ability to say months and months ago: "We were wrong, our learning has changed. Wear a mask to help protect our country and our citizens. This disease is serious." But he couldn't even do that.

Failed.


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Oct. 20, 2020, 1:51 p.m.
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Failure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uLJkpH__os

Oct. 20, 2020, 3:07 p.m.
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Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: chupacabra

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

What was on Hunter Biden's laptop? Nothing good from the sounds of it.

Former NYPD Commissioner: I’ve Seen Hunter’s Hard Drive, The Bidens ‘Belong in Handcuffs’

Ya, I don't think an ex-con and good buddy of Rudy's that was pardoned by Trump makes for a believable witness.  Do you vet anything you read?

Forgot something worth adding without editing: A Biden lawyer did request the laptop back, no one is disputing the emails are authentic (other than 50 FORMER intel officers and Clapper n Brennan via Politico) while the Biden camp has a lid on things until Thursday. Guilliani is mentioning a bombshell tomorrow.

If you think thats crazy and unvetted about the laptop, go and read Wayne Allen Riot on twitter is saying about the hard drives as I wont link that shit (yet). Apparently there is the laptop, 3 extra hard drives that came from somewhere (CCP apparently), Hunter's cell phone is in the mix and Ukrainian officials linked to Russia has a 2nd laptop in Ukraine. Crack is whack and this is too.

You are not sensing the desperation?  They can't even come up with something new.  It's just more laptops and emails.  Did I mention that it is bullshit and that  Rudy is a Russian misinformation stooge?

Trump Said to Be Warned That Giuliani Was Conveying Russian Disinformation

Oct. 20, 2020, 3:24 p.m.
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Posted by: Couch_Surfer

Failed. 4.25% of the world's population. 20% of world's Covid infections.

Failed. 220,000 dead Americans.

Most amount of deaths. Richest Country on Earth. Deaths that were preventable if the President of the United States had the simple ability to say months and months ago: "We were wrong, our learning has changed. Wear a mask to help protect our country and our citizens. This disease is serious." But he couldn't even do that.

Failed.

While I'm also not big fan on a lot of what shogun says or how he says it, I think the way you're placing blame here and trying to hang all the deaths on Trump needs some revision. For starters you have to consider how this infection would arrive in a specific population and then how it would spread. That alone would mean a good part of the global population would have limited exposure. In terms of deaths, the US would have had deaths either way, but how would you determine where that number would be. The big thing we've learned - or should have learned - out of the Swedish reaction/experiment is that social conditioning and the public response plays a huge factor in mitigating the outcome of the pandemic. BC also acts as a relatively good example of what happens when the public has faith in its government institutions and makes a decent effort at following their advice. I think cultural attitudes in the US in regards to freedom and independence, the nature of their health care system and the divide that exists between those in poverty an those not would have resulted in a significant number of infections and deaths even if Trump had done more.

As this thing has progressed it's become clear what we need to do in order to keep the spread to minimal levels without disrupting society too much and it seems many people in the US aren't willing to do those things.

Oct. 20, 2020, 3:42 p.m.
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Joined: Dec. 30, 2002

Posted by: Couch_Surfer

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: Couch_Surfer

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: Couch_Surfer

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

What was on Hunter Biden's laptop? Nothing good from the sounds of it.

Former NYPD Commissioner: I’ve Seen Hunter’s Hard Drive, The Bidens ‘Belong in Handcuffs’

220,000 dead americans due to a complete and utter failed COVID response by team Trump. That's the only story that matters at this point.

No it doesnt. Besides, you guys seem to think all 'Muricans are stupid so this should be a good thing for you boys.

Yeah. It is.

Especially when trying to pivot the narrative to a manufactured scandal intended to distract from 220,000 dead Americans due to a failed Covid response by Trump.

Failed? He wanted to limit air travel first but remember around Feb 2020, Pelosi went to SF's China town and Biden said it'd be bad for the economy. Enter Fauci shortly after that. You guys are so blinded by the Trumphate you cant even discern the events without bias.

Failed. 4.25% of the world's population. 20% of world's Covid infections.

Failed. 220,000 dead Americans.

Most amount of deaths. Richest Country on Earth. Deaths that were preventable if the President of the United States had the simple ability to say months and months ago: "We were wrong, our learning has changed. Wear a mask to help protect our country and our citizens. This disease is serious." But he couldn't even do that.

Failed.

So you're detracting from the laptop for the numbers of deaths? Thats your only play on that? You're also missing some key words in "4.25% of the worlds population".. has what...?

220,000 dead / 328 million citizens = %

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