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Dec. 18, 2019, 5:57 p.m.
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Posted by: chupacabra

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Timeline  This is a good one that goes back in time to show how everything is connected.

Does it not seem odd to you that Trump decides he is going to crack down on global corruption, and the one case he happens upon involves Joe Biden?

Nope. Maybe it's tit for tat - you've said it yourself, how many invesitgations were involving Trump's family?

And I think there's now 3 congressional investigations into Biden & Biden. But as you guys are fond saying, those dont find any wrong doing so its all a stage right?

I'll get back to you on the timeline somewhat later.

Lots.  Take the one that found they improperly ran a charity for their own gain for example.. but how many investigations were launched by Biden?  Does Biden represent all law enforcement to explain the tit for tat?  Are the accusations of sexual assault Biden's fault too?  Can you pull your head out of his ass long enough to see how ridiculous this all is?  If the investigations find wrongdoing by the Bidens I will fully accept that.  I doubt they will, but I don't know what they have done and I can't look reality in the face and choose to not believe it.  If they did find wrongdoing Biden would probably step down too.

This is your cognitive dissonance at work.  You hoped they would find a smoking gun in the FISA process that started Russiagate (spoiler... they didn't) because it would have been a violation of the process and it could get him off the hook on a technicality and in your mind erase everything they found on him.  But you are A-OK with Trump pressuring a foreign government to investigate his opponent's son and send over his personal "fixer" to find the dirt.  What about your strong belief in the legal process?  It would be funny if there weren't 150 million more of you with voting rights.

Biden is part of the DNC, a private company. The DNC has rep's in the House, Congress and Senate. Can you pull your head out of your own ass long enough to see that for what it is? Consider that rhetorical since you cant see the DNC Impeachment coup for just that (a usurping of government with your blessing).

Stop the clinical psych comments. They make you look like attack bot Bazzet.

Funny you should bring up FISA. The FISA court made a rare public statement recently about the FBI's and or Comey's (ab)use of the process.

As for a smoking gun in the FISA process, there was people who had criminal charges were referred if I'm not mistaken and just like I said I doubt there will be indictments because of where Barr came from.

And again, Trump asked a foreign gubment for assistance. I have yet to see any pressure by the current US Admin. Biden publicaly pressured a foreign gubment with Obama's help and you and all your libtarded friends are completely cool with it. Cog dissonance what now?

Dec. 18, 2019, 7 p.m.
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Impeached! What now Marc?

Dec. 18, 2019, 7:09 p.m.
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Posted by: FLATCH

Impeached! What now Marc?

Maybe he'll pull a Trump Steak out of the freezer an while watching it sizzle away on the bbq he'll ponder whether the degree from TrumpU was worth it.

Dec. 18, 2019, 7:16 p.m.
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Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

**Posted by: ReductiMat

**"we humans are not to blame in the least"

How would you design the science experiment to prove that?

Lets take this aspect to the climate change thread.

Fuck.  You're right, Cam is finally gonna kick us off here unless we do.  Hope I remember to go there.

Dec. 18, 2019, 7:56 p.m.
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Joined: Nov. 23, 2002

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Biden is part of the DNC, a private company. The DNC has rep's in the House, Congress and Senate. Can you pull your head out of your own ass long enough to see that for what it is? Consider that rhetorical since you cant see the DNC Impeachment coup for just that (a usurping of government with your blessing).

Stop the clinical psych comments. They make you look like attack bot Bazzet.

Funny you should bring up FISA. The FISA court made a rare public statement recently about the FBI's and or Comey's (ab)use of the process.

As for a smoking gun in the FISA process, there was people who had criminal charges were referred if I'm not mistaken and just like I said I doubt there will be indictments because of where Barr came from.

And again, Trump asked a foreign gubment for assistance. I have yet to see any pressure by the current US Admin. Biden publicaly pressured a foreign gubment with Obama's help and you and all your libtarded friends are completely cool with it. Cog dissonance what now?

DNC a "private company"? lol wut?

Cognitive dissonance is not clinical psych.

Biden pressuring a foreign government? You've got that wrong. In fact you've got it backwards.

Something tells me you need to find some better sources of information on these topics than the ones you're using.


 Last edited by: syncro on Dec. 18, 2019, 7:57 p.m., edited 1 time in total.
Dec. 18, 2019, 9:59 p.m.
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“I really have had enough of illogical detraction by association as a way of avoiding logical argument by an absurd extension of ad hominem argument to third parties.”

Dec. 18, 2019, 11:11 p.m.
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In defense of Shogun, the DNC and the GOP are probably the most powerful companies in the world.

I think he goes wrong when saying one is better than the other.

Dec. 19, 2019, 10:47 a.m.
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Joined: Dec. 30, 2002

Posted by: FLATCH

Impeached! What now Marc?

Considering that was expected, now we get to wait and see what the Senate does.

Personally, I hope Graham was feeding the House some rope and bs when he said they just wanted to vote and make it go away, meanwhile they have full intentions to rake all who partook in the impeachment process over the coals with a proper invesitgation. If Trump is removed by the Senate, thats the start of another banana Republic (all brought by to you the Democratic Party).

Dec. 19, 2019, 10:48 a.m.
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Posted by: ReductiMat

In defense of Shogun, the DNC and the GOP are probably the most powerful companies in the world.

I think he goes wrong when saying one is better than the other.

I think a lot of you go wrong speaking for me.

Dec. 19, 2019, 10:50 a.m.
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Joined: Dec. 30, 2002

Posted by: syncro

DNC a "private company"? lol wut?

Cognitive dissonance is not clinical psych.

Biden pressuring a foreign government? You've got that wrong. In fact you've got it backwards.

Something tells me you need to find some better sources of information on these topics than the ones you're using.

lol read dude.

While its not, its being played out here and next thing you know it'll be dropped every other post like lolzorz used to be.

Not wrong.

Perhaps you should scrutinize your sources more.

edit/ps: how many accounts do you have on here?


 Last edited by: aShogunNamedMarcus on Dec. 19, 2019, 11:06 a.m., edited 1 time in total.
Dec. 19, 2019, 10:51 a.m.
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Posted by: ReductiMat

Fuck.  You're right, Cam is finally gonna kick us off here unless we do.  Hope I remember to go there.

There's enough bullshit in both threads. I like to keep things simple for you folks.

Dec. 19, 2019, 11:13 a.m.
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Joined: June 29, 2006

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: chupacabra

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Timeline  This is a good one that goes back in time to show how everything is connected.

Does it not seem odd to you that Trump decides he is going to crack down on global corruption, and the one case he happens upon involves Joe Biden?

Nope. Maybe it's tit for tat - you've said it yourself, how many invesitgations were involving Trump's family?

And I think there's now 3 congressional investigations into Biden & Biden. But as you guys are fond saying, those dont find any wrong doing so its all a stage right?

I'll get back to you on the timeline somewhat later.

Lots.  Take the one that found they improperly ran a charity for their own gain for example.. but how many investigations were launched by Biden?  Does Biden represent all law enforcement to explain the tit for tat?  Are the accusations of sexual assault Biden's fault too?  Can you pull your head out of his ass long enough to see how ridiculous this all is?  If the investigations find wrongdoing by the Bidens I will fully accept that.  I doubt they will, but I don't know what they have done and I can't look reality in the face and choose to not believe it.  If they did find wrongdoing Biden would probably step down too.

This is your cognitive dissonance at work.  You hoped they would find a smoking gun in the FISA process that started Russiagate (spoiler... they didn't) because it would have been a violation of the process and it could get him off the hook on a technicality and in your mind erase everything they found on him.  But you are A-OK with Trump pressuring a foreign government to investigate his opponent's son and send over his personal "fixer" to find the dirt.  What about your strong belief in the legal process?  It would be funny if there weren't 150 million more of you with voting rights.

Biden is part of the DNC, a private company. The DNC has rep's in the House, Congress and Senate. Can you pull your head out of your own ass long enough to see that for what it is? Consider that rhetorical since you cant see the DNC Impeachment coup for just that (a usurping of government with your blessing).

Stop the clinical psych comments. They make you look like attack bot Bazzet.

Funny you should bring up FISA. The FISA court made a rare public statement recently about the FBI's and or Comey's (ab)use of the process.

As for a smoking gun in the FISA process, there was people who had criminal charges were referred if I'm not mistaken and just like I said I doubt there will be indictments because of where Barr came from.

And again, Trump asked a foreign gubment for assistance. I have yet to see any pressure by the current US Admin. Biden publicaly pressured a foreign gubment with Obama's help and you and all your libtarded friends are completely cool with it. Cog dissonance what now?

So the DNC launched the investigations into the Trump's?  I am still not following your tit for tat argument.  

Impeachment is not a coup, even if you disagree with their reasons.  I felt like Clinton was set up with the BJ scandal, but I never felt it was a coup.  It is a legitimate process, and it doesn't matter that Trump feels it's unfair, the Dems in the house were also elected by the people and stopping them from doing their job is really the attempt to reverse an election.  It is also a really shitty form of a coup since it doesn't necessarily get rid of him and if it did he would be replaced by Pence, not Pelosi.  

coup /ko͞o/ - noun - a sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government.

Was it sudden?  Violent?  Illegal?  Is there a seizure of power?  0 for 4

And yes, I am cool with Biden and the world pressuring Ukraine to fire Shokin because he is corrupt.  Governments pressure other governments all the time in order to push their NATIONAL agenda.  Trump was trying to get Ukraine involved in the 2020 election for his own PERSONAL gain.  Review the timeline.  EU diplomats were pressing Ukraine to fire Shokin months before Biden entered the picture.  How do you square this FACT with your narrative the Biden was acting in his own self-interests.  Every time more information emerges, Trump's motive becomes more obvious.  At least to those of us that can see obvious things. 

And for FISA, they revealed that there are problems with how the FBI conducts investigations but didn't find any issues with the Trump investigation.  Nobody here is going to argue with that.  Comey is not my friend.  But it doesn't help Trump at all.  The investigation is legit and so is impeachment.

Dec. 19, 2019, 11:23 a.m.
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Merry Impeachmas!

Dec. 19, 2019, 5:20 p.m.
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Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: ReductiMat

Fuck.  You're right, Cam is finally gonna kick us off here unless we do.  Hope I remember to go there.

There's enough bullshit in both threads. I like to keep things simple for you folks.

I love when you say shit like that. Like you’re doing us a favour. You’re a real peach.

Dec. 20, 2019, 12:54 a.m.
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Joined: Dec. 30, 2002

Posted by: FLATCH

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: ReductiMat

Fuck.  You're right, Cam is finally gonna kick us off here unless we do.  Hope I remember to go there.

There's enough bullshit in both threads. I like to keep things simple for you folks.

I love when you say shit like that. Like you’re doing us a favour. You’re a real peach.

Put yourself in my position. Zero backup anywhere! and I keep you guys going non stop.

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