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Oct. 17, 2019, 3:09 a.m.
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Posted by: chupacabra

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Chup - if we're going to do the predictions, should we field a few suggestions from other NBR'ers as well as the obvious and simple yes/no to Election 2020, Impeachment and yada yada?

I don't have too many for what is to come, but I did make a few in the past and considering the latest news they are pretty spot on, I just need Kushner to go down. A boy can dream.

Posted by: chupacabra (Feb 26, 2018)

I will give you the Trump win, although just like Trump himself, you got lucky because it was a razor-thin margin and almost anything could have changed the outcome (cough - Russians - cough). What I doubt is that you or Tungsten will concede much when the things I have been saying come to light even though you both have drawn lines in the sand recently. You both seem to think the real conspiracy is what the Dems have done and that Mueller is desperately trying to justify himself with these latest indictments before it becomes obvious that he doesn't have anything. **I think these indictments were just to lay down the groundwork for a lot more to come including collusion between Trump's staff and the Russians (although possibly unwittingly), financial crimes against Kushner, Trump and others, and the extent of the Russian interference will be revealed much more completely. **

In response, you will both howl about the deep state is working for Hillary and the door for any conversation that includes facts will be closed for good.

** Posted by: chupacabra (5 pages ago)**

You couldn't pay me to sift through the threads from 3 years ago, but it is clear the Trump has only ever existed to do one thing.  Grift.You are falling for his con that he has a shred of human decency and that he gives two shits about anything other than himself.  There is not a method to the madness and there never has been.  He just fumbles through his days saving his own skin and trying to prop up his shitty hotels with taxpayer dollars.

Well then... anyways.. as for the current predictions, I was thinking more along the lines of 1-6 points of interests that we've all talked about.. Something like this in a thread we all copy and

paste with simple yes no answers and one to two to elaborate on and then we can hold this over each other's heads for eternity :

1a. 2020 - Trump or Hillary?

1b. Add a differential +- margin for your party.

2a. Impeachment yay or nay?

2b. Impeachment leads to removal yay or hell naw?

3. Ukraine sinks the Dems and DeepState or Trump?

4. Which team was more evil - Obama/Biden/HRC/Brennan/Comey/Clapper/Rice/RBG/5Eyes/etc or Trump and all the people he didnt fire.

5. Open for a "deadpool" or convict pool - list of people about to be indicted. Bonuses for who sells out who.

6. Open for anyone's honest opinionated prediction that you dont hear daily on the msm.

As for being spot on; remember that Misfud and Big Papadapoulus were tied into the Ukraine 3 years ago. It's bigger than that.


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Oct. 17, 2019, 9:41 a.m.
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OK, I'll play.

1a. 2020 - Trump or Hillary? LOL.  Not Trump.

1b. Add a differential +- margin for your party. Dems win popular vote by 8 million.  350 electoral votes and split the Senate 50/50

2a. Impeachment yay or nay?   Yay

2b. Impeachment leads to removal yay or hell naw?   No, but not as certain about this as I once was.

3. Ukraine sinks the Dems and DeepState or Trump?   Trump only.

4. Which team was more evil - Obama/Biden/HRC/Brennan/Comey/Clapper/Rice/RBG/5Eyes/etc or Trump and all the people he didnt fire.   Trump (not sure how we prove this one)

5. Open for a "deadpool" or convict pool - list of people about to be indicted. Bonuses for who sells out who.   Guliani and Pompeo,  and Rudy will spill his guts.

6. Open for anyone's honest opinionated prediction that you don't hear daily on the msm.   Trump will go to trial over manipulating his finances but die before it's over.

As for being spot on; remember that Misfud and Big Papadapoulus were tied into the Ukraine 3 years ago. It's bigger than that.   As was Manafort, and very much so.

Oct. 17, 2019, 2:05 p.m.
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Posted by: chupacabra

OK, I'll play.

1a. 2020 - Trump or Hillary? LOL. Not Trump.

1b. Add a differential +- margin for your party. Dems win popular vote by 8 million. 350 electoral votes and split the Senate 50/50

2a. Impeachment yay or nay? Yay

2b. Impeachment leads to removal yay or hell naw? No, but not as certain about this as I once was.

3. Ukraine sinks the Dems and DeepState or Trump? Trump only.

4. Which team was more evil - Obama/Biden/HRC/Brennan/Comey/Clapper/Rice/RBG/5Eyes/etc or Trump and all the people he didnt fire. Trump (not sure how we prove this one)

5. Open for a "deadpool" or convict pool - list of people about to be indicted. Bonuses for who sells out who. Guliani and Pompeo, and Rudy will spill his guts.

6. Open for anyone's honest opinionated prediction that you don't hear daily on the msm. Trump will go to trial over manipulating his finances but die before it's over.

As for being spot on; remember that Misfud and Big Papadapoulus were tied into the Ukraine 3 years ago. It's bigger than that. As was Manafort, and very much so.

Sweet - I'll start a thread soon with those and copy and paste that in. Can you think of any more that we could add?

edit / ps: Othen than the 8 million differential, we're basically opposites as one could guess. But 8millions was actually my estimation. Either side will be screaming its rigged again.


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Oct. 18, 2019, 2:14 p.m.
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Chup you should move to Warshington, eh?

Over the top..... https://twitter.com/AaronBlake/status/1185196559941722113/photo/1

The challenge! ..... https://twitter.com/DrJillStein/status/1185261884477464586?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1185261884477464586&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.commondreams.org%2Fnews%2F2019%2F10%2F18%2Fjill-stein-challenges-hillary-clinton-debate-after-russian-asset-smear


 Last edited by: tungsten on Oct. 18, 2019, 8:15 p.m., edited 3 times in total.
Oct. 21, 2019, 9:30 a.m.
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Only if you move to Moscow first.  ;)

Seriously though, I wouldn't be surprised if the Russians decided to give her a GRU nudge since her politics align with their goals, but even in Russia they must know Tulsi has a snowball's chance of winning the nomination.  Maybe they think she will go independent.  She certainly isn't much of a Democrat. 

I have no doubt that they pushed Stein in the last election though.

Oct. 23, 2019, 9:19 p.m.
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Cdn content!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=284&v=YDOyoWyM6jc

Oct. 24, 2019, 11:13 p.m.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=11&v=BBiJCEmHe_k

Oct. 25, 2019, 4:05 a.m.
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I suppose it would be better to not secure the oil and let ISIS sell it to rearm themselves...

Oct. 25, 2019, 9:29 a.m.
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Posted by: switch

I suppose it would be better to not secure the oil and let ISIS sell it to rearm themselves...

Syrian/Russian military can secure it...

https://consortiumnews.com/2019/10/24/us-troops-staying-in-syria-to-keep-the-oil-have-already-killed-hundreds/

america the fuck out of everywhere!


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Oct. 25, 2019, 9:41 a.m.
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Posted by: tungsten

Posted by: switch

I suppose it would be better to not secure the oil and let ISIS sell it to rearm themselves...

Syrian/Russian military can secure it...

https://consortiumnews.com/2019/10/24/us-troops-staying-in-syria-to-keep-the-oil-have-already-killed-hundreds/

america the fuck out of everywhere!

Should Russia the fuck out of everywhere?  Just curious where your loyalty lies.

Oct. 25, 2019, 9:44 a.m.
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Stupid Watergate III: Revenge of the Mustachioed Neocon

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2019/oct/25/trump-news-today-impeachment-inquiry-democrats-latest

Oct. 25, 2019, 9:53 a.m.
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Posted by: chupacabra

Posted by: tungsten

Posted by: switch

I suppose it would be better to not secure the oil and let ISIS sell it to rearm themselves...

Syrian/Russian military can secure it...

https://consortiumnews.com/2019/10/24/us-troops-staying-in-syria-to-keep-the-oil-have-already-killed-hundreds/

america the fuck out of everywhere!

Should Russia the fuck out of everywhere? Just curious where your loyalty lies.

Russia was invited into Syria (the Assad govt. recognized as legitimate by every country on earth except for amerikkka and its toadies), unlike amerikkka which was not.

https://www.juancole.com/2019/10/province-kurdish-displacement.html

Back to drump...

“These reports, if true, raise profound new concerns that the Department of Justice under Attorney General William Barr has lost its independence and become a vehicle for President Trump’s political revenge,” they said in a joint statement. “If the Department of Justice may be used as a tool of political retribution, or to help the President with a political narrative for the next election, the rule of law will suffer new and irreparable damage.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/24/2016-election-criminal-investigation-justice-000296


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Oct. 25, 2019, 12:50 p.m.
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Posted by: tungsten

Posted by: switch

I suppose it would be better to not secure the oil and let ISIS sell it to rearm themselves...

Syrian/Russian military can secure it...

https://consortiumnews.com/2019/10/24/us-troops-staying-in-syria-to-keep-the-oil-have-already-killed-hundreds/

america the fuck out of everywhere!

Yeah, because they did it before.

Oct. 25, 2019, 5:10 p.m.
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Special to chup.... article has all links within... https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/10/25/the-dnc-versus-democracy/print/

For those who missed it, there have been a number of reasonably well researched articles detailing efforts by Ukrainian nationals with ties to the Clintons and the DNC to help Ms. Clinton’s 2016 electoral prospects by digging up dirt on Donald Trump. In fact, the Steele Dossier was funded by a law firm connected with the Clinton campaign that used an ex-government official of a foreign power (Steele) to leverage his connections with officials in the Russian government to help the Clinton campaign dig up dirt on Mr. Trump. In other words, the Clinton campaign has been credibly accused of doing what Donald Trump was investigated for with Russiagate.

Here is the New York Times describing how Bill and Hillary Clinton used Ms. Clinton’s public office to act in Vladimir Putin’s interest for the benefit of the Russian government in exchange for large donations to the Clinton Foundation. Through the Atlantic Council and the German Marshall Fund, Clinton Democrats, including leading campaign officials, tie the ‘evidence’ used to promote Russiagate to U.S. intelligence agencies. Propornot, the website that gave the Washington Post a phony list of ‘Russia-linked’ news sources, has ties to the DNC through the Atlantic Council.

Oct. 28, 2019, 9:41 a.m.
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Posted by: tungsten

Special to chup.... article has all links within... https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/10/25/the-dnc-versus-democracy/print/

For those who missed it, there have been a number of reasonably well researched articles detailing efforts by Ukrainian nationals with ties to the Clintons and the DNC to help Ms. Clinton’s 2016 electoral prospects by digging up dirt on Donald Trump. In fact, the Steele Dossier was funded by a law firm connected with the Clinton campaign that used an ex-government official of a foreign power (Steele) to leverage his connections with officials in the Russian government to help the Clinton campaign dig up dirt on Mr. Trump. In other words, the Clinton campaign has been credibly accused of doing what Donald Trump was investigated for with Russiagate.

Here is the New York Times describing how Bill and Hillary Clinton used Ms. Clinton’s public office to act in Vladimir Putin’s interest for the benefit of the Russian government in exchange for large donations to the Clinton Foundation. Through the Atlantic Council and the German Marshall Fund, Clinton Democrats, including leading campaign officials, tie the ‘evidence’ used to promote Russiagate to U.S. intelligence agencies. Propornot, the website that gave the Washington Post a phony list of ‘Russia-linked’ news sources, has ties to the DNC through the Atlantic Council.

For me?  LOL.  Sorry, but the content on that site is too exhausting to fact check and whenever I follow the links of "proof" it never satisfies the definition.  The link from the NY Times in your quote, for example, is 3-1/2 years old and is an Op-Ed that relies on the work of the author of Clinton Cash.  CP purposely avoided saying that it was about the debunked Uranium One "scandal".

Quit being deliberately obtuse.  Russiagate would not have been a scandal if it only came down to a meeting for dirt on Hillary.  The difference is obvious.  Trump didn't just dig for some dirt in another country, he received help with his election from a foreign government.  The only reason Mueller excused him is that there was no way to prove that he was in on the scheme because they were all so clueless it was just as likely they were being played.  Now with Ukraine, he tried to extort them to get help again from a foreign government.  

But I think the most important item on my list is that I have absolutely zero fucks to give on the subject of the Clintons.  Throw them in jail.  Investigate them.  Have Bill become the host of the Apprentice.  Neither one of them is destroying the world at the current moment, so their whereabouts is just background static.

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