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Oct. 7, 2019, 1:57 p.m.
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Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: chupacabra

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: chupacabra

Biden hasnt been named the 2020 Candidate yet - it's not abuse of power or anything of the such. You could probably say its Trump trying to fight back. Emphasis on trying.

Biden doesn't need to be the candidate for this to be an abuse of power. He could have them investigate Rosie O'Donnell and it would still be an abuse of power.

Lets use a local example of Huawei's CFO Meng whoeverzhou.

By your logic, if Trump asked whichever agency that actually detained her to detain her in the first place, publicly announced or otherwise, then it's abuse of powers?

BUT since whichever Canadian authority acted under the guise of the SPP (security and prosperity act), which is a working agreement between the USA and Canada much like what Ukraine and the USA has, then thats not abuse of power?

So, you are just going to go right ahead and pretend that there is no personal motive behind trump's action I see. I guess it's really your only play here, so I don't blame you, but it begs the question, is Trump really concerned with corruption in Ukraine? Follow up "Doesn't it make you question the odds that the one time Trump thinks America needs to confront global corruption it just so happens to also be into his apparent main rival in 2020 and his family?"

Nice reply not even touching anything I mentioned....

Considering you and almost every one else completely glosses over your personal hate for POTUS, no its not personal motivation on his part. He may have decided to actually fight back (and its about time.) He and his family have been targeted. His professional and personal contacts under scrutiny or arrest. And you expect him not to use the avenue's provided to a President? Give your head a shake man.

Once again, I'll laugh at Biden being his main Presidential competition. If Biden was your personal hope, then dude, you're the one with only one play and thats just to carry on and support the treasonous dems who are all:

MAGA 2020 & Drain the Swamp bruv. Think you can just reach into a 100+yr old swamp and just pull the plug!?

I hate the POTUS because he is corrupt and stupid, which lines up with why I also think he should be impeached.  Have I ever stuttered?  There is a reason that "everyone else" is against you on this.    

Your example is ridiculous.  The CFO wasn't detained for personal reasons.  

Again, he has been targeted BECAUSE he is a crook and so are many of his friends and family.  That is why they are in jail.  It is the job of law enforcement to scrutinize criminal behaviour. 

When have I ever stated my support for Biden?

This is the end Shogun.  Enjoy your Cheetoh skinned emporer while you can.

Oct. 7, 2019, 4:44 p.m.
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Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: FLATCH

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Racist.

How is that racist? If you knew me you would know that’s far from true. In fact I find that terribly insulting.

Although I have thought the same of you. Ironic.

Because you believe there should be stipulations to vote. You think you need to pay taxes to vote - what if you're Islamic who doesnt suscribe to usury or a socialist who doesnt believe they need to work? You need proper ID - what if you're a homeless war vet who doesnt have ID or an address to be registered by? All discrimanatory by nature according to the "non right" and from the old institutional guards of the White man.

So you agree with the biggest bigoted pussy grabbin' motherfucker going today, your lord and savior or your favorite man to hate, President Donald Trump. Hence, Voter laws and ID laws being called VoterID.

You'd probably think I'm age-ist because I think we should raise the voting age.

Raise the voting age? By your stated logic above, anyone should be able to vote. I don’t hate Donald Doushbag, I just think he’s a classless piece of shit. Even Reagan had some class.

Homeless or not you should have the ability to show you are a Canadian or landed citizen, I believe if you can’t you probably don’t care to. how about this, if you collect a welfare cheque, a pension or a veteran’s pension you can vote.

At this point all your doing is trolling. Too bad draining the swamp won’t stop that.🖕🏿


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Oct. 7, 2019, 10:14 p.m.
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Posted by: FLATCH

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: FLATCH

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Racist.

How is that racist? If you knew me you would know that’s far from true. In fact I find that terribly insulting.

Although I have thought the same of you. Ironic.

Because you believe there should be stipulations to vote. You think you need to pay taxes to vote - what if you're Islamic who doesnt suscribe to usury or a socialist who doesnt believe they need to work? You need proper ID - what if you're a homeless war vet who doesnt have ID or an address to be registered by? All discrimanatory by nature according to the "non right" and from the old institutional guards of the White man.

So you agree with the biggest bigoted pussy grabbin' motherfucker going today, your lord and savior or your favorite man to hate, President Donald Trump. Hence, Voter laws and ID laws being called VoterID.

You'd probably think I'm age-ist because I think we should raise the voting age.

Raise the voting age? By your stated logic above, anyone should be able to vote. I don’t hate Donald Doushbag, I just think he’s a classless piece of shit. Even Reagan had some class.

Homeless or not you should have the ability to show you are a Canadian or landed citizen, I believe if you can’t you probably don’t care to. how about this, if you collect a welfare cheque, a pension or a veteran’s pension you can vote.

At this point all your doing is trolling. Too bad draining the swamp won’t stop that.🖕🏿

Not trolling that much, a bit maybe but mainly just laying out the idiocy of liberal principles. Remember - this line of comments started after I called out Switch regarding Obama stating anyone can and anyone should vote. He wanted the exact thing I said; thats how messed up the other side is. This wont be a surprise but I like privileges and voting should be a mandatory one (because how can you say a party has a majority vote of the people when less than half even showed up).

Oct. 7, 2019, 10:16 p.m.
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Posted by: chupacabra

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: chupacabra

I would love to see an investigation into the Chinese lobby across the country.  I am sure it would make the Russian efforts in the US seem quaint.

Has the Hauwei CFO actually been deported yet? And, has the Russian efforts been quantified yet?

No, and yes.

Without telling me its well documented and easily found if I searched, can you please tell me or paste/link up how much money Russia wasted on lobbying American politicians?

Oct. 7, 2019, 10:18 p.m.
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Posted by: chupacabra

I hate the POTUS because he is corrupt and stupid, which lines up with why I also think he should be impeached.  Have I ever stuttered?  There is a reason that "everyone else" is against you on this.    

Your example is ridiculous.  The CFO wasn't detained for personal reasons.  

Again, he has been targeted BECAUSE he is a crook and so are many of his friends and family.  That is why they are in jail.  It is the job of law enforcement to scrutinize criminal behaviour. 

When have I ever stated my support for Biden?

This is the end Shogun.  Enjoy your Cheetoh skinned emporer while you can.

My example stands showing you have a bias.

Regarding Biden, he's the only one you mention. Perhaps because he's in the news cycle but I have you down as a nevertrumper regardless.

Guess we'll see in 13 months because how many times have you said that?

Oct. 8, 2019, 4:17 a.m.
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Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: FLATCH

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: FLATCH

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Racist.

How is that racist? If you knew me you would know that’s far from true. In fact I find that terribly insulting.

Although I have thought the same of you. Ironic.

Because you believe there should be stipulations to vote. You think you need to pay taxes to vote - what if you're Islamic who doesnt suscribe to usury or a socialist who doesnt believe they need to work? You need proper ID - what if you're a homeless war vet who doesnt have ID or an address to be registered by? All discrimanatory by nature according to the "non right" and from the old institutional guards of the White man.

So you agree with the biggest bigoted pussy grabbin' motherfucker going today, your lord and savior or your favorite man to hate, President Donald Trump. Hence, Voter laws and ID laws being called VoterID.

You'd probably think I'm age-ist because I think we should raise the voting age.

Raise the voting age? By your stated logic above, anyone should be able to vote. I don’t hate Donald Doushbag, I just think he’s a classless piece of shit. Even Reagan had some class.

Homeless or not you should have the ability to show you are a Canadian or landed citizen, I believe if you can’t you probably don’t care to. how about this, if you collect a welfare cheque, a pension or a veteran’s pension you can vote.

At this point all your doing is trolling. Too bad draining the swamp won’t stop that.🖕🏿

Not trolling that much, a bit maybe but mainly just laying out the idiocy of liberal principles. Remember - this line of comments started after I called out Switch regarding Obama stating anyone can and anyone should vote. He wanted the exact thing I said; thats how messed up the other side is. This wont be a surprise but I like privileges and voting should be a mandatory one (because how can you say a party has a majority vote of the people when less than half even showed up).

as soon as something becomes mandatory it becomes more of a rule and not a privilege. who cares if everybody votes when in a two party system one can have the majority of votes and still lose. Even Vlad must think that’s fucked up.

Oct. 8, 2019, 9:13 a.m.
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Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: chupacabra

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: chupacabra

I would love to see an investigation into the Chinese lobby across the country.  I am sure it would make the Russian efforts in the US seem quaint.

Has the Hauwei CFO actually been deported yet? And, has the Russian efforts been quantified yet?

No, and yes.

Without telling me its well documented and easily found if I searched, can you please tell me or paste/link up how much money Russia wasted on lobbying American politicians?

No, it's not well documented and as far as I know, there is no metric for election interference.  It's certainly not in dollars.  I said "yes" mainly to mess with you, because we both know that you are asking for something that nobody will ever be able to answer with certainty, but I have personally quantified Russian interference as equaling one US election.  Trump's win was so razor-thin that if you took away any of his tailwinds he would have lost.  I suspect you disagree, but it is a pointless argument.

Oct. 8, 2019, 9:25 a.m.
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Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

My example stands showing you have a bias.

Regarding Biden, he's the only one you mention. Perhaps because he's in the news cycle but I have you down as a nevertrumper regardless.

Guess we'll see in 13 months because how many times have you said that?

Everyone has a bias, but is it unfair?  You can't see that Trump is a conman, so it appears like a bias.  Sorry, that's on you.

Biden is who Trump worries about in the next election because he is still the current frontrunner.  This has nothing to do with me.  I am in Warren's camp at the moment.

I have said he will go down since he was elected, and now he faces impeachment, so...  I also said it wouldn't be for collusion, but I didn't know he would give us a second crack with a whole new collusion to investigate.  The man is really not smart.  I also still think his financial crimes are lurking like a shark under the water.  My predictions still look pretty solid if you ask me.  Have you made any?

Oct. 8, 2019, 10:35 a.m.
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The only way for the States to get rid of the orange buffon is to vote him out. All this media circus with the name calling, accusations, on twitter is desensitizing the U.S. public into thinking his actions are normal behavior for a POTUS. Watching from here although quite entertaining, is really depressing at the same time. The U.S. IMO has really hit rock bottom, thought they were better than that.


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Oct. 8, 2019, 11:55 a.m.
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Posted by: Brocklanders

The only way for the States to get rid of the orange buffon is to vote him out. All this media circus with the name calling, accusations, on twitter is desensitizing the U.S. public into thinking his actions are normal behavior for a POTUS. Watching from here although quite entertaining, is really depressing at the same time. The U.S. IMO has really hit rock bottom, thought they were better than that.

Removing him is a long shot for sure, and afterward, they would still have Pence as POTUS.  I think the impeachment process will hammer his chances in 2020 though, so there is still an upside, and after he is gone all those lawsuits will all finally get played out.  58% currently support the impeachment inquiry and 38% against.  An impeachment inquiry is an airing of facts that he cannot control, and that terrifies Trump.  It should be fun watching.

Oct. 8, 2019, 12:01 p.m.
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Posted by: chupacabra

Again, he has been targeted BECAUSE he is a crook and so are many of his friends and family.

True, a smattering of progressive/patriotic congress people have advocated for impeachment since the early days of Trumpelthinskins presidency.

But what actually forced the cowards who control congress to act was the tangerine tweeters attacks on their candidate (Biden) who has the best chance of handing power back to the "centrist", neo-liberal, cold-war elities whose class defined policies made the Groepenfuehrers ascendency possible.


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Oct. 8, 2019, 3:54 p.m.
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Posted by: tungsten

Posted by: chupacabra

Again, he has been targeted BECAUSE he is a crook and so are many of his friends and family.

True, a smattering of progressive/patriotic congress people have advocated for impeachment since the early days of Trumpelthinskins presidency.

But what actually forced the cowards who control congress to act was the tangerine tweeters attacks on their candidate (Biden) who has the best chance of handing power back to the "centrist", neo-liberal, cold-war elities whose class defined policies made the Groepenfuehrers ascendency possible.

I was actually talking about the FBI investigating him, but them too.  If the Illuminati really were looking at impeachment as a way to preserve Biden's candidacy, why would they use the Ukraine scandal which basically puts Biden's son and his bullshit high paid job in the spotlight?  Whether they are cowards or not is certainly debatable, but in my opinion, now has always been the best time to impeach Trump if you are going to do it at all.  If they went ahead last year they wouldn't have had nearly as much to impeach him on, it would be over by now, and Trump would be crowing about his vindication in the senate.  Doing it now was the smart move and I think Pelosi was always prepared to advocate for it late in his term.  Now he will have to campaign with impeachment shadowing him.

Oct. 8, 2019, 8:08 p.m.
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Oct. 9, 2019, 11:08 a.m.
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Posted by: chupacabra

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Without telling me its well documented and easily found if I searched, can you please tell me or paste/link up how much money Russia wasted on lobbying American politicians?

No, it's not well documented and as far as I know, there is no metric for election interference.  It's certainly not in dollars.  I said "yes" mainly to mess with you, because we both know that you are asking for something that nobody will ever be able to answer with certainty, but I have personally quantified Russian interference as equaling one US election.  Trump's win was so razor-thin that if you took away any of his tailwinds he would have lost.  I suspect you disagree, but it is a pointless argument.

Poppycock and hogwash bruv.

Oct. 9, 2019, 11:11 a.m.
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Posted by: chupacabra

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

My example stands showing you have a bias.

Regarding Biden, he's the only one you mention. Perhaps because he's in the news cycle but I have you down as a nevertrumper regardless.

Guess we'll see in 13 months because how many times have you said that?

Everyone has a bias, but is it unfair?  You can't see that Trump is a conman, so it appears like a bias.  Sorry, that's on you.

Biden is who Trump worries about in the next election because he is still the current frontrunner.  This has nothing to do with me.  I am in Warren's camp at the moment.

I have said he will go down since he was elected, and now he faces impeachment, so...  I also said it wouldn't be for collusion, but I didn't know he would give us a second crack with a whole new collusion to investigate.  The man is really not smart.  I also still think his financial crimes are lurking like a shark under the water.  My predictions still look pretty solid if you ask me.  Have you made any?

No, you assuming I have a Trump bias when I'm also messing with you and others is on YOU guys.

Trump couldnt care about Biden. And you should ditch Fauxcahontas.

Your bias is showing with Ukraine - that collusion should sink a lot of Dems. If not, you know the swamp is real.

If you dont think I've made any predictions, then you've just been trolling and paying zero attention. Which almost shows at times.

I'll tell you mine if you tell me yours ;)

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