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The Saudis are coming! The Saudis are coming!

Aug. 10, 2018, 11:18 a.m.
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Posted by: ReductiMat

Posted by: chupacabra

Posted by: ReductiMat

So you are of the impression Justin spearheaded the purchase of an aging pipeline at a one hundred times it’s proper price in order to protect the environment?

No, of course not.  Are you suggesting this is retaliation for sending tar sands oil to the US?

Not in the slightest.  What set this latest firestorm off was my reply to the question, "Can't we get all of our oil from Alberta".

I do not think Justin Trudeau is Canada's top dog.  And that bothers me.

When doesn't the tail wag the dog in politics?  It bothers me as well.

Aug. 10, 2018, 6:32 p.m.
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Posted by: syncro

I think a more critical issue that this little shitshow brings up is that of foreign students and our universities reliance on the dollars that foreign students bring in. In particular I find the number of foreign students in our medical programs to be an issue. Canada faces a shortage of doctors, yet many of these seats are being taken up by foreign students. Does it make sense to train foreign students in our medical system only to have them leave after? Shouldn't we focus on filling these placements with Canadian students or at a minimum people who plan to make lives here after their training is finished? 

It's estimated that there are about 800 Saudi doctors in training who will be leaving. Interestingly, they're here as part of a visa program where the Saudi govt' pays $100,000 per student who trains here. How fucked up is that?

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-canadian-teaching-hospitals-scrambling-to-resolve-how-saudi-student/

Studying medicine in Canada is for the very rich or the fools. Smart aspiring doctors study medicine in China, learn all the same shit and take on a tenth of the debt.

Aug. 11, 2018, 3:38 a.m.
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Posted by: Fast-Orange

Posted by: syncro

I think a more critical issue that this little shitshow brings up is that of foreign students and our universities reliance on the dollars that foreign students bring in. In particular I find the number of foreign students in our medical programs to be an issue. Canada faces a shortage of doctors, yet many of these seats are being taken up by foreign students. Does it make sense to train foreign students in our medical system only to have them leave after? Shouldn't we focus on filling these placements with Canadian students or at a minimum people who plan to make lives here after their training is finished? 

It's estimated that there are about 800 Saudi doctors in training who will be leaving. Interestingly, they're here as part of a visa program where the Saudi govt' pays $100,000 per student who trains here. How fucked up is that?

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-canadian-teaching-hospitals-scrambling-to-resolve-how-saudi-student/

Studying medicine in Canada is for the very rich or the fools. Smart aspiring doctors study medicine in China, learn all the same shit and take on a tenth of the debt.

In relation to what Syncro said, how does China treat Muslim's? And, do Chinese uni's offer whole medical programs in English?

Aug. 11, 2018, 8:05 a.m.
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Posted by: Fast-Orange

Studying medicine in Canada is for the very rich or the fools. Smart aspiring doctors study medicine in China, learn all the same shit and take on a tenth of the debt.

lol - and then good luck trying to get into a residency program back here so they can actually go on to practice medicine.

Aug. 11, 2018, 8:12 a.m.
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Joined: Jan. 27, 2003

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: Fast-Orange

Posted by: syncro

I think a more critical issue that this little shitshow brings up is that of foreign students and our universities reliance on the dollars that foreign students bring in. In particular I find the number of foreign students in our medical programs to be an issue. Canada faces a shortage of doctors, yet many of these seats are being taken up by foreign students. Does it make sense to train foreign students in our medical system only to have them leave after? Shouldn't we focus on filling these placements with Canadian students or at a minimum people who plan to make lives here after their training is finished? 

It's estimated that there are about 800 Saudi doctors in training who will be leaving. Interestingly, they're here as part of a visa program where the Saudi govt' pays $100,000 per student who trains here. How fucked up is that?

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-canadian-teaching-hospitals-scrambling-to-resolve-how-saudi-student/

Studying medicine in Canada is for the very rich or the fools. Smart aspiring doctors study medicine in China, learn all the same shit and take on a tenth of the debt.

In relation to what Syncro said, how does China treat Muslim's? And, do Chinese uni's offer whole medical programs in English?

Tianjin Medical University has so many Muslim students they built them a separate halal cafeteria. And yes they offer whole medical programs in English.

Aug. 11, 2018, 8:17 a.m.
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Joined: Jan. 27, 2003

Posted by: syncro

Posted by: Fast-Orange

Studying medicine in Canada is for the very rich or the fools. Smart aspiring doctors study medicine in China, learn all the same shit and take on a tenth of the debt.

lol - and then good luck trying to get into a residency program back here so they can actually go on to practice medicine.

Why is that? Stigma? I know a few Americans that did all their studies in China and are practicing doctors in the US now.

Aug. 11, 2018, 9:04 a.m.
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Joined: Nov. 23, 2002

Posted by: Fast-Orange

Why is that? Stigma? I know a few Americans that did all their studies in China and are practicing doctors in the US now.

it's notoriously difficult for foreign trained doctors or students to get into the system here to practice.
http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Opinion+Canada+shuts+door+Canadian+doctors+foreign+medical+schools/9714934/story.html

Aug. 11, 2018, 11:35 a.m.
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read ALL of that ^^ opinion piece including letters including the comments

Duno about the USA but doesn't any doctor wanting to practice in Canada also have to write the board exams ?

we got a lot of South African MD's up here one of them told me he had to write the boards

Aug. 11, 2018, 4:48 p.m.
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Yeah the Chinese universities train in standard western medicine and prepare students for the American board exams. It's basically the same education they would receive here.

Aug. 11, 2018, 5:11 p.m.
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They planting tracking implants to track us when they takes over.

Aug. 11, 2018, 5:15 p.m.
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I welcome our new Chinese overlords.

Aug. 14, 2018, 1:12 p.m.
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Joined: Dec. 30, 2002

Posted by: Fast-Orange

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: Fast-Orange

Posted by: syncro

I think a more critical issue that this little shitshow brings up is that of foreign students and our universities reliance on the dollars that foreign students bring in. In particular I find the number of foreign students in our medical programs to be an issue. Canada faces a shortage of doctors, yet many of these seats are being taken up by foreign students. Does it make sense to train foreign students in our medical system only to have them leave after? Shouldn't we focus on filling these placements with Canadian students or at a minimum people who plan to make lives here after their training is finished? 

It's estimated that there are about 800 Saudi doctors in training who will be leaving. Interestingly, they're here as part of a visa program where the Saudi govt' pays $100,000 per student who trains here. How fucked up is that?

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-canadian-teaching-hospitals-scrambling-to-resolve-how-saudi-student/

Studying medicine in Canada is for the very rich or the fools. Smart aspiring doctors study medicine in China, learn all the same shit and take on a tenth of the debt.

In relation to what Syncro said, how does China treat Muslim's? And, do Chinese uni's offer whole medical programs in English?

Tianjin Medical University has so many Muslim students they built them a separate halal cafeteria. And yes they offer whole medical programs in English.

Wow, had no idea. Thanks for the info.

Lets say I was under a different impression.

Aug. 14, 2018, 1:13 p.m.
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Posted by: Fast-Orange

I welcome our new Chinese overlords.

You're ahead of the game so to speak ;)

Aug. 14, 2018, 8:23 p.m.
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Joined: Nov. 20, 2002

Posted by: Fast-Orange

Yeah the Chinese universities train in standard western medicine and prepare students for the American board exams. It's basically the same education they would receive here.

I'm pretty sure they are gona pass over someone coming out of the UBC/UNBC  med school program for someone from Tianjin

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