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The Decline of Vancouver.

March 21, 2016, 9:03 a.m.
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I heard Christie is in contact with the ex-Iraqi Information Minister Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf.

I'm sure he's still pronouncing that Saddam will win the war any day now.

When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity.

When many people suffer from a delusion, it is called religion.

March 21, 2016, 10:06 a.m.
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Although it is sweet to be in your situation, rising real estate prices will probably eventually be the reason you leave Vancouver as well.

If you aren't living in Vancouver for employment reasons, you are wasting your money. If you telecommute or are retired, you would live somewhere cheaper.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/vancouver-housing-market-vulnerable-to-money-laundering/article29285770/

No biggie, they only found issues in 55 of the 80 offices they visited…

The Canadian Real Estate Association (CREA), which leads industry training on anti-money-laundering compliance, says it understands there is a problem but it blames the federal agency. It calls FinTRAC’s training webinar “clearly insufficient,” while it says the industry invested “heavily” in two staffers plus outside firms to bring members up to speed.

Translation: "We airhead realtors are too stupid to learn the laws of our profession. So its not our fault … We put a lot of time and money into training - as a matter-of-fact, I'm off right now to attend a Webinar on how to tie my shoelaces and wave "bye-bye""

March 21, 2016, 11:01 a.m.
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Canada is a first world country with third world consumer protection laws.

“I really have had enough of illogical detraction by association as a way of avoiding logical argument by an absurd extension of ad hominem argument to third parties.”

March 21, 2016, 1:19 p.m.
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OT, but….

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Or the low buck ski bum alternative?

http://fivetoncamper.com/

Unfortunately it burned up a couple of weeks ago but he is rebuilding:

https://www.instagram.com/5toncamper/?hl=en

My wife said she plans to be done in 4 years the whole coaching at Uni thing. And mentioned that we would potentially be back in Toronto. And agreed with my comment…if we live there we will only rent as rent in Toronto is way cheaper than a mortgage.

She interestingly hasn't said no though to my suggestion of a smaller scale version,

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-heavy-trucks/cambridge/1994-western-star-lsvw-truck/1148253938?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

And when I showed the fiveton camper pics to my daughter she was all….wide eyed smiles and cool.

www.thisiswhy.co.uk

www.teamnfi.blogspot.com/

March 21, 2016, 1:59 p.m.
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London, but related:

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-35757265

March 29, 2016, 4:25 p.m.
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Jennifer Fox: Goodbye Vancouver, you should go and love yourself
http://blogs.theprovince.com/2016/03/28/jennifer-fox-goodbye-vancouver-you-should-go-and-love-yourself/

March 30, 2016, 7:14 a.m.
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Joined: Feb. 26, 2015

Jennifer Fox: Goodbye Vancouver, you should go and love yourself
http://blogs.theprovince.com/2016/03/28/jennifer-fox-goodbye-vancouver-you-should-go-and-love-yourself/

Cute. She has some valid points. What makes me laugh is when I hear " There is no men here in Vancouver, the dating scene is terrible." From countless single women friends over the years. The women in this town are so icy and guarded its laughable.
…. Not trying to hjack the thread.

People always ask me what's the phenomenon
Yo what's up? Yo what's goin' on- Adam Yauch

March 30, 2016, 8:04 a.m.
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yeah we get that up here too there no men in a narthern town?! failure to connect does not mean none!

there was an artical claiming the vangroovy RE sitution is due to lack of supply NOT my people laundering money from china

I can't find the link

March 30, 2016, 8:17 a.m.
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My wife said she plans to be done in 4 years the whole coaching at Uni thing. And mentioned that we would potentially be back in Toronto. And agreed with my comment…if we live there we will only rent as rent in Toronto is way cheaper than a mortgage.

She interestingly hasn't said no though to my suggestion of a smaller scale version,

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-heavy-trucks/cambridge/1994-western-star-lsvw-truck/1148253938?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

And when I showed the fiveton camper pics to my daughter she was all….wide eyed smiles and cool.

Hey enduramil, what uni does your wife coach at?

March 30, 2016, 9:52 a.m.
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Joined: Feb. 5, 2011

there was an artical claiming the vangroovy RE sitution is due to lack of supply NOT my people laundering money from china

I can't find the link

For sure lack of supply cause by Vancouver's natural geography is probably the first most important factor leading to expensive real estate - we have mountains to the north, water to the west, the US border not too far south, and then on top of that we have a bunch of waterways throughout all of the available land making it more difficult to travel from one area to another (i.e. bridges = bottlenecks). This causes most people to want to live in a small area - now inject tons of super rich foreigners into Vancouver and you get a lot of people with a lot of money wanting to live in a relatively small area.

IMO I think the ideal solution is to basically knock down all the detached houses on the "west side" and replace them with a bunch of higher density housing (townhouses and low/mid rise condos). Obviously this isn't too realistic but I think over an extended period of time (like 30 years) this will be the natural evolution. It's already starting to happen slowly but surely on Oak/Cambie/Main/Granville/etc.

March 30, 2016, 10:19 a.m.
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OK so then you need infrastructure for a lot more people in a small place which I supose IS happening from what I see with rapid transit/busing but there must be more to it I don't see

my people are definalty laundering money in Canada BTW

March 30, 2016, 10:32 a.m.
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OK so then you need infrastructure for a lot more people in a small place which I supose IS happening from what I see with rapid transit/busing but there must be more to it I don't see

my people are definalty laundering money in Canada BTW

Yeah I think infrastructure is another big issue throughout all of the GVA - seems that population growth has outpaced infrastructure growth for a while, with the result being the terrible traffic jams throughout the area:

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/11/06/vancouver-worst-traffic-congestion_n_4228675.html

I think for the west side to be redeveloped into higher density housing they would need to come up with a big infrastructure plan as well to support the higher population - whether that be better roads, more skytrains, light rail (streetcars), etc.

March 30, 2016, 10:47 a.m.
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more skytrains, light rail (streetcars), etc.

Yeah! Right up the Kerrisdale bung-hole!

“I really have had enough of illogical detraction by association as a way of avoiding logical argument by an absurd extension of ad hominem argument to third parties.”

March 30, 2016, 11:49 a.m.
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For sure lack of supply cause by Vancouver's natural geography is probably the first most important factor leading to expensive real estate - we have mountains to the north, water to the west, the US border not too far south, and then on top of that we have a bunch of waterways throughout all of the available land making it more difficult to travel from one area to another (i.e. bridges = bottlenecks).

Don't forget all the ALR land that can't be developed.

March 30, 2016, 11:54 a.m.
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Don't forget all the ALR land that can't be developed.

but it all will be eventually. we dont need to grow potatos next to Delta port any more than we need to have 600 head Dairy farms in richmond.

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