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Stephen Harper ... Nobel prize?

Sept. 2, 2014, 9:40 a.m.
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Yes, it's come to this. Harper getting a nomination for Nobel Peace prize for his support of Israel. Nomination from the CEO of B'nai B'rith …

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/bnai-brith-ceo-to-nominate-harper-for-nobel-peace-prize/article20286246/

In a news release issued by B’nai Brith Canada, Mr. Dimant praised the Prime Minister’s approach in dealing with major international conflicts.

He said Mr. Harper has demonstrated international leadership and a clear understanding of the differences between those who “seek to do evil” and their victims.

“More than any other individual, he has consistently spoken out with resolve regarding the safety of people under threat – such as opposing Russian aggression and annexation of Ukrainian territory – and has worked to ensure that other world leaders truly understand [the] threat of Islamic terrorism facing us today,” Mr. Dimant said.

The Conservative government has said that its outspoken approach is part of a “principled” foreign policy that means it is unafraid to choose sides in conflicts.

Critics, including some former Canadian diplomats, have countered that the Conservative government’s outspoken approach often involves more rhetoric than action and have said that it could limit Canada’s ability to play a constructive role in resolving global conflicts.

This summer, when the United States and others criticized Israel’s shelling of a United Nations school in Gaza, the federal government continued to blame Hamas alone, saying the militant organization was solely responsible for the continuing violence in the region.

University professors are on the list of individuals permitted to submit nominations to the Nobel Foundation.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/09/02/stephen-harper-nobel-prize_n_5752828.html?utm_hp_ref=canada-alberta[HTML_REMOVED]ir=Canada%20Alberta

The petition:

http://www.change.org/p/norwegian-nobel-committee-deny-the-nomination-of-pm-stephen-harper-for-2014-nobel-peace-prize?recruiter=6636926

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Sept. 2, 2014, 10:16 a.m.
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Don't you have to DO something to get one of these?

This isn't meant to be a charged comment.

Sept. 2, 2014, 10:17 a.m.
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The petition:

http://www.change.org/p/norwegian-nobel-committee-deny-the-nomination-of-pm-stephen-harper-for-2014-nobel-peace-prize?recruiter=6636926

A petition against this? what a surprise…

Sept. 2, 2014, 10:39 a.m.
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This is the best troll of all time.

Sept. 2, 2014, 11:59 a.m.
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Don't you have to DO something to get one of these?

This isn't meant to be a charged comment.

Harper has done plenty! Dramatically more harm than good, though.

Sept. 2, 2014, 12:14 p.m.
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who knew that running your mouth off like a tough guy merited a peace prize?

Sept. 2, 2014, 4:04 p.m.
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who knew that running your mouth off like a tough guy merited a peace prize?

To be fair, Obama got one for simply being not Bush and getting elected as the US pres. The Peace Prize standards could actually be around this level.

Sept. 2, 2014, 4:10 p.m.
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To be fair, Obama got one for simply being not Bush and getting elected as the US pres. The Peace Prize standards are actually around this level.

FYP.

Sept. 2, 2014, 5:38 p.m.
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The criteria for nomination is pretty weak, and is open to anyone including

• Members of national assemblies and governments of states
• University rectors; professors of social sciences, history, philosophy, law and theology; directors of peace research institutes and foreign policy institutes

http://www.nobelprize.org/nomination/peace/

And you guessed it - Hitler, Mussolini, and Stalin have all been nominated too

http://nobelpeaceprize.org/en_GB/about_peaceprize/facts/

Sept. 2, 2014, 6:44 p.m.
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who knew that running your mouth off like a tough guy merited a peace prize?

Running your mouth off like a tough guy, but accomplishing absolutely nothing and looking like a dork.

I thought this was interesting. An article published in the periodical "Free Inquiry" in 2003:

The 14 Defining Characteristics Of Fascism

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.

6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.

9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

Sound familiar? Maybe I'm taking things too far? Check out this article by in Macleans by Andrew Leach, the Enbridge Professor of Energy Policy at the University of Alberta (I'm not making this up either).

http://www.macleans.ca/economy/economicanalysis/un-muzzle-the-scientists-not-so-fast/

"To speak out publicly against government policy is, by the current definition, fundamentally at odds with the role of a public servant in our democracy. Public servants are expected to provide impartial advice to the policy development process and loyal implementation of government policies once decisions are taken. They are not supposed to critique that policy publicly when it doesn’t align with their interpretation of the evidence or their beliefs with respect to how that evidence should be weighed. Allowing public servants to be openly critical of government decisions – whether based on scientific evidence or any other criteria – turns the relationship between the bureaucracy and their democratically elected masters on its head, undermining the trust essential to an effective working relationship."

Funny coming from a guy who works at a publicly-funded institution. I hope he will have the honesty to resign if the is ever at odds with any policy our "democratically elected masters".

Sept. 4, 2014, 9:02 a.m.
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I found proof of Canadian action!.

Sept 4th, 2014

Ukraine peacekeeping exercise to include 13 Canadian soldiers.

Prime Minister announces $4M in support for Ukraine, NATO response to Russia

If we are going to do something this mediocre (13 out of the 1200 person force), with such a serious situation, I'd really wish there wasn't so much 'tough language' that preceded it. :/

And yes, I'm considering the 12+ CF-18s we have there already. At least that IS something significant, relative to us. This new announcement is just embarrassing.

Sept. 4, 2014, 9:28 a.m.
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everything Harper 'announces' is embarrassing.

Sept. 4, 2014, 9:54 a.m.
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I found proof of Canadian action!.

If we are going to do something this mediocre (13 out of the 1200 person force), with such a serious situation, I'd really wish there wasn't so much 'tough language' that preceded it. :/

And yes, I'm considering the 12+ CF-18s we have there already. At least that IS something significant, relative to us. This new announcement is just embarrassing.

Considering it will take 10 of them to operate the Tim Hortons they will bring with them,I think they need to round up a few more soldiers.

Pastor of Muppets

Sept. 4, 2014, 10:03 a.m.
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everything Harper 'announces' is embarrassing.

That's not true!! I've devoted a lot of time compiling the following extensive list of Harper's positive contributions to Canadian citizens:

1. TFSAs

When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity.

When many people suffer from a delusion, it is called religion.

March 25, 2020, 11:09 p.m.
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How a network of Ukrainian ultra-nationalists penetrated Canada’s Conservative Party to lobby for military conflict

Once an underground network of fascist ideologues shunned by the Ukrainian Canadian community for “criminal ideas,” Canada’s ultra-nationalist Bandera lobby is today a major political player. It recently rubbed shoulders with former PM Stephen Harper and top contenders for the leadership of his Conservative Party.

Orest Steciw n 1980s at ABN conference in Canada (left), and in 2020 with Harper

According to journalists Scott and Jon Lee Anderson, the ABN was “the largest and most important umbrella for Nazi collaborators in the world,” and a central component of the World Anti-Communist League. The three most recent leaders of the ICSU were all formerly affiliated with the now-defunct ABN. 

https://thegrayzone.com/2020/03/26/canadian-conservative-party-bandera-canada/

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