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Jan. 9, 2018, 12:23 a.m.
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There's some sweet ass narrative's here *.  Granted, less now that there's only six of us left.

I'll buy a beer or six for the best one for why it's important to send our poor to "war".

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Jan. 9, 2018, 12:24 a.m.
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Jesus this fucking forum editor was written for a high school test.

Jan. 9, 2018, 9:36 a.m.
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But why do those that earn more NEED to be taxed more?

That just sounds dumb to me.

Those who have more pay more, and why can't everyone just be happy for what they have and celebrate the success of their friends, neighbours etc..

I think we should send everyone to war. And in Canada, we send not only send our best but our brightest. Why is it that historically the "poor" go to war? Because thats the label they get slapped with, and there are more folks that make less...So more wood for the pile.


 Last edited by: gotham on Jan. 9, 2018, 9:40 a.m., edited 1 time in total.
Jan. 9, 2018, 4:56 p.m.
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What do you call a communist sniper ....  a marxman

Jan. 9, 2018, 7:24 p.m.
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Posted by: gotham

Why is it that historically the "poor" go to war?

In the 19th century because of class structure. In the 20th because the owning classes work loopholes just like they do with taxes.

Now, the poor go to war now because all the jobs have been automated or shipped offshore. That's why 'merica don't need no draft no more, eh?

What do you call a communist sniper .... a marxman

Good one!


 Last edited by: tungsten on Jan. 9, 2018, 7:25 p.m., edited 1 time in total.
Jan. 10, 2018, 7:59 a.m.
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The "class" label is outdated and unnecessary. People are people. Different colours, different passions, different socio-economic conditions...but people.

Jan. 10, 2018, 11:15 a.m.
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Posted by: tungsten

Posted by: gotham

Why is it that historically the "poor" go to war?

In the 19th century because of class structure. In the 20th because the owning classes work loopholes just like they do with taxes.

Now, the poor go to war now because all the jobs have been automated or shipped offshore. That's why 'merica don't need no draft no more, eh?

Well, a lot of the nobility and upper class that was slowly developping in the 19th century went to war as well. War was considered the continuation of politics with different means (Clausewitz). It was pretty much considered posh to join the army. Of course, the "grunts" in the front lines of all those cabinet wars were ordinary people whereas noble sons learned how to direct the carnage, or were allowed to lead a party or a cavallery charge.

Jan. 10, 2018, 11:17 a.m.
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Posted by: gotham

The "class" label is outdated and unnecessary. People are people. Different colours, different passions, different socio-economic conditions...but people.

True, as might be the classic label of "right" or "left" in politics.

Jan. 10, 2018, 12:47 p.m.
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Posted by: gotham

But why do those that earn more NEED to be taxed more?

That just sounds dumb to me.

Those who have more pay more, and why can't everyone just be happy for what they have and celebrate the success of their friends, neighbours etc..

I think we should send everyone to war. And in Canada, we send not only send our best but our brightest. Why is it that historically the "poor" go to war? Because thats the label they get slapped with, and there are more folks that make less...So more wood for the pile.

Hey there big guy.  How is the road trip??  

Personally, I want everyone to keep what they can.  I am sure there is bitterness with some that want to tax the rich, but I don't care if others have lots of money.  For me, it is the long-term issue of inequality.  The increasing gap between rich and poor is baked into capitalism, so taxation is one of the few tools to try and keep the gap from growing to the point that society breaks down (for more on that read any of RM's posts).  Really the only time the poor have made significant gains anywhere on the wealthy are during major disruptions.  That last one was WW2, which is why the 50's was the golden age of the middle class.

Feb. 1, 2018, 7:19 p.m.
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Communism jokes are only funny when everyone gets them.

Feb. 1, 2018, 7:40 p.m.
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How is it I've never fucking heard that one?!

July 31, 2018, 3:37 p.m.
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I'll just put this here.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/inheritance-tax-ccpa-1.4767137

“.....with a malevolent fascist swine atop its titular apex, the pitiful wounded beast of a rotten, spiritually dead American Superpower is careening towards epic barbarism while pushing the species dangerously to the tipping points of extinction.”

July 31, 2018, 4:49 p.m.
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Inheritance tax is taxing money that's already been taxed.  Evil.

It is easy to dodge our responsibilities, but we cannot dodge the consequences of dodging our responsibilities.
- Josiah Stamp

Every time I see an adult on a bicycle, I no longer despair for the future of the human race.
- H.G. Wells

Aug. 1, 2018, 8:27 a.m.
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Posted by: switch

Inheritance tax is taxing money that's already been taxed.  Evil.

Every dollar you've ever earned has been taxed multiple times.

Over half of OECD countries have some kind of inheritance tax, because almost every transfer of money is taxed in most countries.

https://taxfoundation.org/estate-and-inheritance-taxes-around-world/

Aug. 1, 2018, 1:28 p.m.
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Posted by: switch

Inheritance tax is taxing money that's already been taxed.  Evil.

https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/08/01/lets-tax-the-rich/

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