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So Elon bought the twitter....

April 25, 2022, 10:10 p.m.
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Posted by: [email protected]

We're expecting an offer from Elon on NBR any day now.

Humour from our insect overlords - moist excellent.

April 26, 2022, 5:04 a.m.
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Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

It'll be interesting to see how everyone reacts to "free speech" (which we dont have here on the nbr anymores). 

Define free speech.

April 26, 2022, 6:19 a.m.
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Posted by: Fast-Orange

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

It'll be interesting to see how everyone reacts to "free speech" (which we dont have here on the nbr anymores). 

Define free speech.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech

It’s an illuminating read.

April 26, 2022, 10:24 a.m.
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A lot of folks pretend not to understand the difference between 'freedom of speech' and 'freedom from consequences'....


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April 26, 2022, 11:02 a.m.
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Posted by: Couch_Surfer

A lot of folks pretend not to understand the difference between 'freedom of speech' and 'freedom from consequences'....

I was listening to Owen Shroyer being questioned in the Sandy Hook deposition and he was asked; "what does free speech mean to you?"

The word for word answer was "The freedom to speak without fear of consequences"

April 26, 2022, 11:07 a.m.
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Posted by: heckler

Posted by: Fast-Orange

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

It'll be interesting to see how everyone reacts to "free speech" (which we dont have here on the nbr anymores). 

Define free speech.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech

It’s an illuminating read.

I know the standard definition I just want to know how Shogun defines it. It's a question free speech champions don't like to answer because it either exposes them as believing it's a one sided concept (I.e. I can say whatever I want but if you challenge me on any of it you're oppressing me) or they have to admit that their freedom of speech actually hasn't been infringed.

April 26, 2022, 12:05 p.m.
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Posted by: Fast-Orange

Posted by: Couch_Surfer

A lot of folks pretend not to understand the difference between 'freedom of speech' and 'freedom from consequences'....

I was listening to Owen Shroyer being questioned in the Sandy Hook deposition and he was asked; "what does free speech mean to you?"

The word for word answer was "The freedom to speak without fear of consequences"

If I was Zeus for a day, Owen Shroyer would be cursed to punch himself in the balls repeatedly.

People like him like to conflate 'freedom from (governmental) reprisal' with 'freedom from consequences'.  And because of the sad state of education, MAGA dumb dumbs lap it up.

April 26, 2022, 12:15 p.m.
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1st amendment rights in America are different than 1st amendment rights in Canada

April 26, 2022, 1:38 p.m.
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Posted by: XXX_er

1st amendment rights in America are different than 1st amendment rights in Canada

Because the 1st amendment to Canada's constitution adds Manitoba as a province.

April 26, 2022, 1:56 p.m.
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^^ I knew KenN was going to drop a hammer on that.


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April 26, 2022, 2:09 p.m.
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I think it might be more than just Manitoba

https://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4120&context=lcp

April 26, 2022, 2:11 p.m.
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I think Elon bought Twitter for what he feels is free speech but also because it's the most baller rich guy thing you could possibly do.  Trump whines about being banned while a real rich dude just buys it.  He is establishing alpha dominance over other billionaires.  

As far as actual free speech is concerned this all goes back to the problem that online platforms are just media companies except the content is provided by the users for free.  Nobody has the right to free speech on Twitter any more than you do on the 6 o'clock news, but men with giant egos like Musk can't fathom the idea that they can't own the public forum and make it awesome for everyone cuz they're smart.

April 26, 2022, 2:31 p.m.
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Posted by: XXX_er

I think it might be more than just Manitoba

https://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4120&context=lcp

That is an article about free speech rights in Canada vs US, but misses my point entirely.

April 26, 2022, 2:41 p.m.
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Posted by: KenN

Posted by: XXX_er

1st amendment rights in America are different than 1st amendment rights in Canada

Because the 1st amendment to Canada's constitution adds Manitoba as a province.

Its very important to defend our right to manitoba.

April 26, 2022, 2:42 p.m.
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Posted by: three-sheets

Posted by: KenN

Posted by: XXX_er

1st amendment rights in America are different than 1st amendment rights in Canada

Because the 1st amendment to Canada's constitution adds Manitoba as a province.

Its very important to defend our right to manitoba.

I Respectfully disagree.


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