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July 20, 2020, 11:01 p.m.
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Posted by: tungsten

Posted by: chupacabra

If America (Western) control is reduced in an area, China will quickly fill that void.  

If teh amerikkkans abandoned violence and economic coercion and instead instituted a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Neighbor_policy maybe there wouldn't be a void to fill?

You can't seriously believe that?

July 20, 2020, 11:39 p.m.
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Posted by: syncro

Posted by: tungsten

Posted by: chupacabra

If America (Western) control is reduced in an area, China will quickly fill that void.  

If teh amerikkkans abandoned violence and economic coercion and instead instituted a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Neighbor_policy maybe there wouldn't be a void to fill?

You can't seriously believe that?

What're you some white supremacist who thinks other nations/peoples can't make decisions in their own best interest?

July 20, 2020, 11:45 p.m.
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Posted by: chupacabra

China has big plans for the country and for the Chinese people which is why purging the country of Uighurs and Tibetans is so important to them.  But when has a country obsessed with global domination and racial purity ever been a problem before right?  /s

You better start shitting bricks buddy 'cause the Golden Touch shock troopers are training just across the waves from you on Saltspring Isl.

July 21, 2020, 12:25 a.m.
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Posted by: tungsten 

What're you some white supremacist who thinks other nations/peoples can't make decisions in their own best interest?

lol

Your train wreck of thought is absolutely comical at times.  

But to answer your question all one has to do is take a look around to see that most nations can’t act in their own best interests  these days no matter their ethnicity. If you look back in history some cultures were capable of it, Coast Salish people come to mind as one. However, once a culture has become poisoned by technological advancement and a surplus of goods things tend to fall to shit. 

All it takes is one person who likes the idea of abundance to throw a wrench into the works.

July 21, 2020, 12:37 a.m.
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So you agree capitalism is the root of all evil. Good. We're making progress.

July 21, 2020, 1:14 a.m.
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Posted by: chupacabra

apply a "phobia" to me, at least make it for China.  I am not really worried about Russia.  They are more of a global pest, 

https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/07/20/the-uk-and-us-are-starting-a-new-cold-war-with-russia-and-china-so-what-are-these-governments-trying-to-hide/

War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, and Ignorance is Strength.

July 21, 2020, 9:26 a.m.
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Posted by: tungsten

So you agree capitalism is the root of all evil. Good. We're making progress.

LOL.  And you think socialism prevents human greed?  How adorable.

July 21, 2020, 9:43 a.m.
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Posted by: tungsten

Posted by: chupacabra

apply a "phobia" to me, at least make it for China.  I am not really worried about Russia.  They are more of a global pest, 

https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/07/20/the-uk-and-us-are-starting-a-new-cold-war-with-russia-and-china-so-what-are-these-governments-trying-to-hide/

War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, and Ignorance is Strength.

Ah yes, the slogan of Oceania from 1984.  Oceania was created in an anti-capitalist revolution, so thanks for the irony.

July 21, 2020, 11:09 a.m.
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Posted by: chupacabra

Posted by: tungsten

Posted by: chupacabra

apply a "phobia" to me, at least make it for China.  I am not really worried about Russia.  They are more of a global pest, 

https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/07/20/the-uk-and-us-are-starting-a-new-cold-war-with-russia-and-china-so-what-are-these-governments-trying-to-hide/

War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, and Ignorance is Strength.

Ah yes, the slogan of Oceania from 1984.  Oceania was created in an anti-capitalist revolution, so thanks for the irony.

You're welcome. What did you have against Bo Fan?

July 21, 2020, 11:12 a.m.
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Posted by: tungsten

So you agree capitalism is the root of all evil. Good. We're making progress.

I doubt that he agrees to that at all.  And your assertion reflects the position that there is a complete lack of any nuance - that capitalism is monolithic and inflexible.  Well-regulated capitalism with truly progressive taxation and strong social supports and safety nets is pretty close to ideal, while the kind of Ayn Randian capitalism espoused by the libertarians and neoliberals is truly awful, and nothing other than the glorification of narcissism.

July 21, 2020, 11:46 a.m.
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We are both correct.

July 21, 2020, 1:11 p.m.
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Posted by: tungsten

We are both correct.

Who's we, you and Putin and the voices in your head?

You need to be way more nuanced in your opinions vs the all or none stances you typically take. And FYI, economic, political and social systems aren't the root of all evil, that's people (men typically) who are power hungry and they exist across all domains.

July 21, 2020, 2:34 p.m.
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Posted by: syncro

And FYI, economic, political and social systems aren't the root of all evil,

Of course they are, they're created by human beings, who are the source of all evil.

Further....


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July 21, 2020, 4:17 p.m.
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Posted by: chupacabra

I am not really worried about Russia.  

Neither am I. Ukraine otoh.....

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Influential DC-based Ukrainian think tank hosts neo-Nazi activist convicted for racist violence

The US-Ukraine Foundation hosted notorious neo-Nazi militant Diana Vynohradova in a webinar this month. While legitimizing Ukrainian white supremacists, the think tank has forged close ties with foreign policy elites in Washington.

https://thegrayzone.com/2020/07/20/ukrainian-think-tank-neo-nazi-racist-violence/

July 21, 2020, 4:22 p.m.
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Posted by: tungsten

Of course they are, they're created by human beings, who are the source of all evil.

Based on that then the only viable solution seems to be to eliminate humanity. You have a weird way of looking at things.

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