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pending teachers strike, BCTF and the gov't

Sept. 9, 2014, 4:22 p.m.
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I've been pretty neutral in this dispute to date but this week the BCTF made attempts to disrupt the operation of our daycare since there are members (not teachers) working there… I sent the first letter of support to the government via several key MLAs indicating my approval of their negotiating position with the BCTF.

that sounds like a bit of a leap?

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Sept. 9, 2014, 5:16 p.m.
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The two sides are 300 million apart. Or 2/3 the cost of the new roof on bc place.

Sept. 9, 2014, 11:02 p.m.
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The two sides are 300 million apart. Or 2/3 the cost of the new roof on bc place.

What is the better ROI though, a new fancy sliding roof on a private building in DT Van, or returning public education funding to levels similar to what they were before illegal contract striping?

Why slag free swag?:rolleyes:

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Sept. 10, 2014, 12:33 a.m.
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Perhaps class sizes should be dynamically set by the school district instead of having an arbitrary rigid number. A little flexibility for the school districts would help them provide the services needed within the budget constraints they have.

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Sept. 13, 2014, 5:06 a.m.
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The two sides are 300 million apart. Or 2/3 the cost of the new roof on bc place.

Oh ffs just give it to them.

Olympics: roughly 2 billion
BC Place: roughly 700 million
Vancouver convention center: 500 million

Investing in the mental capacity of the citizens of the future: 300 million but like fuck that we can't afford it.

Fuck you, you can't afford it. Your recent purchases state otherwise.

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Sept. 17, 2014, 3:27 p.m.
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New contract vote happens tomorrow.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/b-c-teachers-strike-bctf-letter-outlines-tentative-agreement-1.2768948

Sept. 17, 2014, 5:15 p.m.
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MLAs get to vote themselves raises
anybody else gets the shitty end of the stick

Ha Ha! Made you look.

Sept. 17, 2014, 5:26 p.m.
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Breaking news: life isn't fair.

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Sept. 17, 2014, 5:31 p.m.
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Breaking news: life isn't fair.

Its not about fair its politicians being fucking disgraceful morons.

Ha Ha! Made you look.

Sept. 17, 2014, 5:51 p.m.
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I suggested to the GF she vote no. The "agreement" is not a good agreement at all. No ability to reduce class size and composition, a minimal pay raise per teacher, and minimal additional funding per district for operational expenses. Some deal.

Sept. 17, 2014, 6:42 p.m.
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Class size should be addressed by the court case.

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Sept. 17, 2014, 7:05 p.m.
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I suggested to the GF she vote no. The "agreement" is not a good agreement at all. No ability to reduce class size and composition, a minimal pay raise per teacher, and minimal additional funding per district for operational expenses. Some deal.

teachers get a raise every year. (w/ less than 10yrs exp) What non-union jobs can guarantee that?

does this not address size and composition?

Education Fund
An Education Fund will be established and will be used exclusively to hire additional bargaining unit members to address class size, class composition, and the provision of specialist teachers.
The amounts in the fund are as follows:
2014–15—$75 million
2015–16—$80 million
2016–17—$80 million
2017–18—$80 million
2018–19—$85 million

If I see one more poster equating capital an operational expenses as equivalent I'm going to lose my mind.

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Sept. 17, 2014, 7:09 p.m.
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Class size should be addressed by the court case.

Yeah, because it worked so well when the gov't lost the last two cases. :rolleyes:

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Sept. 17, 2014, 7:14 p.m.
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Class size and composition should be a public debate in the legislature, not a union bargaining chip.

That's the problem with cities, they're refuges for the weak, the fish that didn't evolve.

I don't want to google this - sounds like a thing that NSMB will be better at.

Sept. 17, 2014, 7:22 p.m.
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Class size and composition should be a public debate in the legislature, not a union bargaining chip.

You should go ahead and make sure that all the BC supreme court justices know that. Apparently they don't know shit.

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When many people suffer from a delusion, it is called religion.

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