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Aug. 9, 2019, 11:58 p.m.
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Here are 20 serious points of comparison between the early Hitler and Trump...........

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/08/09/leading-civil-rights-lawyer-shows-20-ways-trump-copying-hitlers-early-rhetoric-and

Freedom of contract. We sell them guns that kill them; they sell us drugs that kill us.

Aug. 11, 2019, 8:57 p.m.
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Posted by: tungsten

Here are 20 serious points of comparison between the early Hitler and Trump...........

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/08/09/leading-civil-rights-lawyer-shows-20-ways-trump-copying-hitlers-early-rhetoric-and

Could one argue that if Obama wasnt so shitty, Trump's rhetoric wouldn't be so effective?

Aug. 11, 2019, 9:35 p.m.
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Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: tungsten

Here are 20 serious points of comparison between the early Hitler and Trump...........

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/08/09/leading-civil-rights-lawyer-shows-20-ways-trump-copying-hitlers-early-rhetoric-and

Could one argue that if Obama wasnt so shitty, Trump's rhetoric wouldn't be so effective?

You give him too much credit. The abandonment of the working class started way back with Carter.

Oh yeah, ...

“Intellectuals still argue whether Amerika is a fascist country. This concern is typical of the Amerikan left’s flight from reality. … This is actually a manifestation of the authoritarian process seeping into its own psyche.” (Blood in My Eye, circa 1971)

https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/08/09/blood-in-our-eyes/


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Aug. 19, 2019, 1:53 a.m.
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https://www.routledge.com/Fascism-Old-and-New-American-Politics-at-the-Crossroads/Boggs/p/book/9781138485341

Aug. 21, 2019, 12:34 a.m.
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Hi Tungsten. 

Thanks for sharing, similar stuff is floating around in Europe as well, in bits and pieces. 

Guess I might use the text for my asvanced English classes. Sweet.

"You don't learn from experience. You learn from reflecting on the experience."
- Kristen Ulmer

Sept. 4, 2019, 9:16 p.m.
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https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/09/04/german-elections-a-mixture-of-joy-and-great-sorrow/

Sept. 9, 2019, 11:14 p.m.
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“The first truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism — ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power.” -FDR

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/what-makes-people-so-susc_b_78134

In America, our controlling private powers are corporations. Powerful, rich and globally connected, the corporations that privately control us do it in a myriad of ways. And as in most capitalistic societies, they benefit enormously. This is not a call to socialism or a a screed against the elite; you need not dig deep or at all to see the corporate ownership of all things in our society. Ownership of media companies connected to Defense companies connected to consumer product companies (talking to you, General Electric), multi-headed hydras that all breathe from a central command and control. And that command and control owns our government. By Roosevelt’s definition, we are under a state of fascism in this country. Or as Cindy Sheehan so eloquently put it “a fascist corporate wasteland.” But it takes two sides of the equation and for fascism to work, let alone exist, it needs people under its spell.


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Sept. 10, 2019, 2:06 a.m.
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If corporations were running the world,  we'd all be cheering "Jonathan".

Sept. 13, 2019, 12:55 p.m.
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the (in)famous military industrial complex cum lobbyism cum big data....the werd thing is, I do not really think that anything can be done about it. And to a certain extent I do not really care, because the next "rebellion" would in turn end up where all kinds of great ideas ended up....on the same pile of ideas gone wrong. 

Power does always corrupt, and if the local small town politician ends up on a commitee or in the senat or parliament or whatever the name of that insitution is....he/she would be corrupt as well. 

sigh...no, I do not bury my head in the sand....I just acknowledge certain basic facts and am old enough to be devoid of any youthful ideas of a glorious utopia.

Sept. 13, 2019, 8:46 p.m.
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^Defeatist.^

https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/09/13/heres-to-the-last-philosophes-the-frankfurt-school/


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Sept. 17, 2019, 10:42 a.m.
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Posted by: tungsten

^Defeatist.^

https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/09/13/heres-to-the-last-philosophes-the-frankfurt-school/

A pessimist is a realistic optimist.

Oct. 25, 2019, 9:42 a.m.
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Talk of a fascist politics emerging in the United States and in the rise of right-wing populist movements across the globe is often criticized as a naive exaggeration or a misguided historical analogy. In the age of Trump, such objections feel like reckless efforts to deny the growing relevance of the term and the danger posed by a society staring into the abyss of a menacing authoritarianism. In fact, the case can be made that rather than harbor an element of truth, such criticism further normalizes the very fascism it critiques, allowing the extraordinary and implausible, if not unthinkable, to become ordinary. Under such circumstances, history is not simply being ignored or distorted, it is being erased. Moreover, after decades of a savage global capitalist nightmare both in the United States and around the globe, the mobilizing passions of fascism have been unleashed unlike anything we have seen since the 1930s.

https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/10/25/rethinking-the-looming-threat-of-neoliberal-fascism/

(with citations)

Contributing... https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/10/22/bretton-woods-institutions-neoliberal-over-reach-leaves-global-governance-in-the-gutter/print/


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Dec. 30, 2019, 11:18 a.m.
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I studied ethics at Harvard Divinity School with James Luther Adams, who had been in Germany in 1935 and 1936. Adams witnessed the rise there of the so-called Christian Church, which was pro-Nazi. He warned us about the disturbing parallels between the German Christian Church and the Christian right. Adolf Hitler was in the eyes of the German Christian Church a volk messiah and an instrument of God—a view similar to the one held today about Trump by many of his white evangelical supporters. Those demonized for Germany’s economic collapse, especially Jews and communists, were agents of Satan. Fascism, Adams told us, always cloaked itself in a nation’s most cherished symbols and rhetoric. Fascism would come to America not in the guise of stiff-armed, marching brownshirts and Nazi swastikas but in mass recitations of the Pledge of Allegiance, the biblical sanctification of the state and the sacralization of American militarism. Adams was the first person I heard label the extremists of the Christian right as fascists. Liberals, he warned, as in Nazi Germany, were blind to the tragic dimension of history and radical evil. They would not react until it was too late.

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/onward-christian-fascists/

Jan. 1, 2020, 10:56 a.m.
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Come to think of it, most religious fundamentalists are (religiously motivated) fascists imo.

July 24, 2020, 9:31 p.m.
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https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/07/24/scoring-fascism/

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